inquiringmind Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 Is there any significance to the fact that the word χρυσουν (golden) has a numerical value of 1820 (the year Joseph said he first saw the gold plates)?
The Nehor Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) No, especially since he first saw them in 1823. Edited September 19, 2013 by The Nehor 3
inquiringmind Posted September 19, 2013 Author Posted September 19, 2013 No, especially since he first saw them in 1823. Thank you. Was he told about the gold plates in 1820?
The Nehor Posted September 19, 2013 Posted September 19, 2013 Thank you. Was he told about the gold plates in 1820?No, 1820 was the First Vision. According to Joseph all he knew at that point was that the fulness of the gospel would be revealed to him later somehow. The first mention of the record was in 1823 when Moroni came.
cinepro Posted September 20, 2013 Posted September 20, 2013 No, 1820 was the First Vision. According to Joseph all he knew at that point was that the fulness of the gospel would be revealed to him later somehow. The first mention of the record was in 1823 when Moroni came. To be fair, it's possible Joseph was told about the Golden Plates during the first vision, but he just never found himself telling the story to an audience that inspired him to relay that part of the experience.
Glenn101 Posted September 20, 2013 Posted September 20, 2013 To be fair, it's possible Joseph was told about the Golden Plates during the first vision, but he just never found himself telling the story to an audience that inspired him to relay that part of the experience. Of course. Moroni could also have told Joseph about polygamy also. He just never found himself telling the story to an audience that inspired him to relay that part of the experience. Glenn
Questing Beast Posted September 20, 2013 Posted September 20, 2013 No, especially since he first saw them in 1823.Or 1827, whatever....
The Nehor Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 Or 1827, whatever.... No, he first saw them in 1823. He was not allowed to take them until 1827.
Questing Beast Posted September 21, 2013 Posted September 21, 2013 It depends on the year of the so-called first vision. According to Oliver Cowdery in his history of the prophet Joseph Smith, composed in 1834-5, JS was seventeen at the time of his first visionary experiences. This places the beginning in c. 1823, and corresponding dates are bumped forward, with attendant difficulties in reconciling a chronology with the beginning of the LDS faith in 1830....
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