Nofear Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 It might be noted that the Family: A Proclamation to the World only states that we are the spirit children of "heavenly parents". We don't know if our Father in Heaven has one wife or many. We don't know if each of us share the same heavenly mother or if my particular mother is the same as another's.It is not inconceivable that so little is known about her/them because such a revelation would have significant and substantive social impacts if believed by humanity in general.
Yep Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I am married. I am a husband. I am a father.I believe that my Eternal Father comprises perfection in all of these titles/roles.I am married. I have a wife. I have a mother.I believe that my Eternal Mother comprises perfection in all of these titles/roles.The logic that leads to the defining features of our Eternal Father is applicable to our Eternal Mother. I believe that we know much more than we think we do about our Heavenly Mother.
thesometimesaint Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I am married. I am a husband. I am a father.I believe that my Eternal Father comprises perfection in all of these titles/roles.I am married. I have a wife. I have a mother.I believe that my Eternal Mother comprises perfection in all of these titles/roles.The logic that leads to the defining features of our Eternal Father is applicable to our Eternal Mother. I believe that we know much more than we think we do about our Heavenly Mother.That is still just a logical conclusion from a bald assumption.
Yep Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 That is still just a logical conclusion from a bald assumption.Which is the bald assumption? I am be having difficulty seeing it as I hold the above to be true and not simply assumption.
thesometimesaint Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I BELIEVE that we have a Mother-in-Heaven. However there is no Scriptural support for her. Add her to Scripture and I'll vouchsafe for her qualities.
Bikeemikey Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) What do we know about heavenly mother?Presumably that she is a lady (and even that is a presumption)... apart from that we know nothing. Edited April 12, 2013 by Bikeemikey
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) While I think there's truth to Elder Snow's statement, we really do not know much at all about Heavenly mother. We know she is there both by reasn and by implication via The Family: A Proclamation to the World. My understanding is that Heavenly Father cannot by "Father" without a "mother" by His side. Beyond that I hardly think of Heavenly Mother other than that she's there and that the Father is complete with her.I would add in private as well. Not a good place to go.If she is like my mother...whom after my sister married found herself living with her husband and three boys, she spends a lot of her time rolling her eyes. Keep in mind one of those 3 boys was a the perfect little me. These days I just she knew who I was everyday. Edited April 12, 2013 by Bill “Papa” Lee
Yep Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I BELIEVE that we have a Mother-in-Heaven. However there is no Scriptural support for her. Add her to Scripture and I'll vouchsafe for her qualities.I don't believe that LDS theology holds up without a Mother-in-Heaven. 1
thesometimesaint Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 There are Gods many and Lords many, but to us there is but one God and one Lord.So LDS and other Christian theology holds up well without a specific God called Mother-in-Heaven. I'm not arguing over her existence. I believe she does, but that belief is not supported by Scripture. Not even the PotF is accepted Scripture. Maybe it will be next General Conference.
CASteinman Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 that belief is not supported by Scripture. There is support for it in scripture. Genesis 1: 26-27 IIRC.
CASteinman Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I don't believe that LDS theology holds up without a Mother-in-Heaven.I think it is more correct to say that it leads inexorably to that conclusion.
Yep Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 I think it is more correct to say that it leads inexorably to that conclusion.Perhaps, but I think the absence of a Mother-in-Heaven throws most of the exaltation teachings into question. Particularly the marriage requirements thereof. I would have difficulty reconciling many of my beliefs in the absence of a Mother-in-Heaven. 1
CASteinman Posted April 12, 2013 Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) Perhaps, but I think the absence of a Mother-in-Heaven throws most of the exaltation teachings into question. Particularly the marriage requirements thereof. I would have difficulty reconciling many of my beliefs in the absence of a Mother-in-Heaven.Oh, God could simply say "I made you male and female and I have this in mind -- do it".I realize that this creates a great many questions -- questions our Catholic and Protestant co-religionists wrestle with. But it isn't really a requirement to believe in Her -- as a (very) few of them show by having some similar beliefs (Swedenborgians for example). However, our beliefs draw us to that conclusion, at which points things become more resolvable without convolution. Edited April 12, 2013 by CASteinman
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