Last Night'S Election

[followerofemmanuel]

I am truly sad that Mitt Romney was not voted in. I'm Canadian so I can't vote. EV's and LDS share similar values and priorities. EV's should not be hating anyone according to the greatest commandment which is to love one another. I think the election helped many people to understand the LDS church better so that's a plus:)

Interesting thing about the topic of hate though is the number of people who accused people of voting for Romney as 'haters'. It was all over twitter last night from people observing the election. People voting for Romney hate women, hate gay's ...yadda yadda. Since when does practicing Biblical values dated more than 2,000 years now become an act of hate? What is going on in this world? We fight to save stray kittens and we slaughter the unborn without concience. But it is an act of hate to say that we want laws to say we can't use abortion as birth control? Everyone has a right to have an opion and vote accordingly. People who believe in values taught in the Bible should also be given that right. I don't consider pro-abortionist or pro-gay marriage haters of the church. It only reflects what they value which we can aggree to disaggree on.

Edited November 8, 2012 by followerofemmanuel

[Calm]

Here is a link: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012-exit-poll

Thank you.

Are you:

Total Obama Romney  

 

Mormon

2% 21% 78%  

Sample: 9753 respondents

I found the education results rather interesting.

[Calm]

Like this one too:

Which ONE of these four candidate qualities mattered most in deciding how you voted for president? (CHECK ONLY ONE)

Total Obama Romney  

Shares my values

27% 42% 55%  

Is a strong leader

18% 38% 61%  

Cares about people like me

21% 81% 18%  

Has a vision for the future

29% 45% 54%  

Gender by marital status

Total Obama Romney  

Married men

29% 38% 60%  

Married women

31% 46% 53%  

Non-married men

18% 56% 40%  

Non-married women

23% 67% 31%  

Are you gay, lesbian or bisexual?

Total Obama Romney  

Yes

5% 76% 22%  

No

95% 49% 49%  

Sample: 9319 respondents

In your vote for president, how would you rate the importance of Obama's hurricane response?

Total Obama Romney  

The most important factor

15% 73% 26%  

An important factor

27% 65% 33%  

A minor factor

22% 51% 46%  

Not a factor at all

31% 28% 70%  

Edited November 7, 2012 by calmoriah

[Sethbag]

Anyone else notice how the entire Bible Belt, full of evangelicals, baptists, and various Christian folk all managed to vote for a Mormon? Either they got over their supposed hatred for the LDS Church or they didn't really hate us at all in the first place. And/or Bro. Romney's religion was a non-issue and only brought up as a point of 'media fodder' so the talking heads had something to ponificate about.

Or that Bible Belt full of evangelicals, baptists, and various other Christian (and, I suppose, irreligious) folks hated the black guy even more. And the fact that he was a "libral", a Democrat.

I'm not just being crass. I have a neighbor who kept going on and on about "if that n***** gets reelected..." and just how Earth-shatteringly awful things would be. I am a member of a shooting range down here in AZ and over the past couple of months heard members, including one match director, repeat the most awful gossip, conspiracy theories, and just plain old vile crap about our President, and I'm convinced a lot of it wouldn't have been dreamed of if Obama were "normal", ie: white. I remember the Clinton years and how whacky and vile some of the Clinton hate got. This was worse.

[Nathair/|\]

I voted for Romney pretty much because I had to. My wife did, too. We really didn't like either one more than the other.

We Mormons are supposed to be Republicans and vote for Republicans, don't cha know, so that's what we did. We had to.

You know, there were at least four other choices.

[The Nehor]

Or that Bible Belt full of evangelicals, baptists, and various other Christian (and, I suppose, irreligious) folks hated the black guy even more. And the fact that he was a "libral", a Democrat.

I'm not just being crass. I have a neighbor who kept going on and on about "if that n***** gets reelected..." and just how Earth-shatteringly awful things would be. I am a member of a shooting range down here in AZ and over the past couple of months heard members, including one match director, repeat the most awful gossip, conspiracy theories, and just plain old vile crap about our President, and I'm convinced a lot of it wouldn't have been dreamed of if Obama were "normal", ie: white. I remember the Clinton years and how whacky and vile some of the Clinton hate got. This was worse.

I went to the Free Republic forums while the votes were being tallied. Several people were having to justify why they were not going to commit their own promised suicide or leave the country like they promised they would if "B-Rock the Islamic Shock SuperAllah Obama" (best nickname EVER!) was elected. It was very entertaining.

[wenglund]

I'm not aware of any polling on the issue. But I can give you an anectdotal view from an Ohio Obama voter. My ward is a mix of professionals and blue collars in a Cleveland suburb. I would estimate that about 60% of the ward (but only 30% of the active members) voted for Obama.

Out off my six active LDS siblings who voted, I am guessing that two of them likely voted for Obama. So, this somewhat matches your figures.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Edited November 12, 2012 by wenglund

[mtomm]

More Mormons voted for Bush than Romney.

http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx

[wenglund]

Like this one too:

Yes, the hurricane vote statistic blew me away (pun intended). It amazes me how such an important election could turn so size-ably on a photo op.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[wenglund]

I went to the Free Republic forums while the votes were being tallied. Several people were having to justify why they were not going to commit their own promised suicide or leave the country like they promised they would if "B-Rock the Islamic Shock SuperAllah Obama" (best nickname EVER!) was elected. It was very entertaining.

It reminds me of Alex Baldwin and other Bush haters back in the day. Evidently there are Chicken Littles on both sides who end up chickening out.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Edited November 12, 2012 by wenglund

[Ramil Torres]

not all mormons vote for Romney

[azisbest]

Anyone else notice how the entire Bible Belt, full of evangelicals, baptists, and various Christian folk all managed to vote for a Mormon? Either they got over their supposed hatred for the LDS Church or they didn't really hate us at all in the first place. And/or Bro. Romney's religion was a non-issue and only brought up as a point of 'media fodder' so the talking heads had something to ponificate about.

The bible belt thinks Obama is a Muslim. And they all know he is black, nuff said. It is not too complicated.

[wenglund]

The bible belt thinks Obama is a Muslim. And they all know he is black, nuff said. It is not too complicated.

Got to love this kind of ironic stereotyping.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[azisbest]

Got to love this kind of ironic stereotyping.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Guilty as charged...............but not by much, lol.

[wenglund]

Guilty as charged...............but not by much, lol.

I am finding that more and more these days that prejudice is being projected. In other words, often these days the people pointing fingers at the alleged prejudices of others are inadvertently exposing their own more extensive and deep-seated prejudices. It is an odd phenomena that tends to underscore the adage that we humans tend to dislike most in others what is more pronounced in ourselves.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Edited November 12, 2012 by wenglund

[Bikeemikey]

Mormons are 84% - 90% Republican, and less than 1% Of the total votes Obama got were from Mormons. There is no room for debate.

That statistic is not correct. The only polling around this issue has been of US Mormons. Most Mormons are neither democrat or republican. Of the US Mormon population (most Mormons are not from the US) the pew study that came out earlier this year said slightly over 80% are conservative. The figure for republican leaning/affiliation is lower as so of the 80% claim a libertarian position, not he republican one.

Edited November 12, 2012 by Bikeemikey

[wenglund]

That statistic is not correct. The only polling around this issue has been of US Mormons. Most Mormons are neither democrat or republican. Of the US Mormon population (most Mormons are not from the US) the pew study that came out earlier this year said slightly over 80% are conservative. The figure for republican leaning/affiliation is lower as so of the 80% claim a libertarian position, not he republican one.

...not to mention conservative Democrats.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[thesometimesaint]

George W. Bush got a higher percentage of Mormon voters than did Mitt Romney

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/267063-poll-bush-won-more-mormons-than-romney-but-gop-improves-among-jews-catholics

[Saints Alive]

That statistic is not correct. The only polling around this issue has been of US Mormons. Most Mormons are neither democrat or republican.

Obviously, since this thread is about the US election, I was referring to US Mormons. In any case, less than 1% of the votes Obama receive we're from Mormons. Edited November 13, 2012 by Saints Alive

[azisbest]

I am finding that more and more these days that prejudice is being projected. In other words, often these days the people pointing fingers at the alleged prejudices of others are inadvertently exposing their own more extensive and deep-seated prejudices. It is an odd phenomena that tends to underscore the adage that we humans tend to dislike most in others what is more pronounced in ourselves.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

Totally anecdotal, what response is possible?

[wenglund]

Totally anecdotal, what response is possible?

A person's ability to respond to anecdotes directly corresponds to their openness to differing perspectives and their ability to generalize, if not also, in this case their capacity for self-reflection.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[Bikeemikey]

Obviously, since this thread is about the US election, I was referring to US Mormons. In any case, less than 1% of the votes Obama receive we're from Mormons.

As the Internet is accessible from outside the US and contains a large number of non-US posters it is appropriate be a little more specific.

It would not be appropriate for me to say, "most Mormons believe in reincarnation", even though a huge number of Taiwanese members still think it is likely they will be reincarnated (not a scientific study, just something i discovered on my mission there).

Even suggesting the uniformity of regional generalizations should be avoided in a global church.

Also, I would suggest that in my country of origin the political affiliation would be reversed. What will happen when US members realize that they are both a geographic minority and that conservative ideals are also a political minority within the church.

That is probably where we are at now.

Edited November 13, 2012 by Bikeemikey

[Saints Alive]

Are you suggesting that the majority is infallible?

[thesometimesaint]

No one here is infallible. As the Church takes no stand on partisan politics, the majority will out.

[Pandorian]

I am a Mormon and politically independent. Last time I voted for Barack Obama. I watched him in action, and this time I voted for Mitt Romney because I thought Obama had done such a horrible job of it. Because Romney and I are Mormon had absolutely nothing to do with me voting for him. I thought Obama loused up things so bad, we couldn't do much worse. In 2004 I also voted for John Kerry. I voted for Marijuana legalization in WA, and didn't feel bad about it at all. I figure God gave us agency, and as long as cigarettes are legal and no more dangerous than pot, then why not make it legal, or illegalize cigarettes.