california boy Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Well, first of all I love ABBA. Second, I have seen such parades in San Francisco and N. Hollywood. And, for the most part are harmless. On the other hand I have to agree with Calmoriah that a few bad eggs spoil it for the serious individuals involved. Add to that invasions into Catholic masses, assaults on businesses and people who supported Prop. 8, etc., then there is an element that distorts a portion of the gay lifestyle for the majority of Americans.In any group you have some people that do things that reflect poorly on the group as a whole. I don't think that most people are willing to condemn an entire group by the actions of a few. Certainly the Catholic church has had its share of a few bad eggs by those that were suppose to be the example and light of the Catholic church. It doesn't mean that is part of the Catholic lifestyle. The same applies to the gay community. When I hear anyone condemn an entire group by even a very small minority of individuals in that group, I think they are only trying to justify their own bigotry whether it be towards the Catholic church or the gay community.. I hope this post doesn't appear as being argumentative. I am just trying to understand how you feel about what you posted. Do you think that the examples you gave justifies condemning gay pride parades? I am also curious why you went to two gay pride parades. On the whole did you enjoy them? How did it effect your views on the gay community? Would you recommend others to go to a gay pride parade?
Ron Beron Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 In any group you have some people that do things that reflect poorly on the group as a whole. I don't think that most people are willing to condemn an entire group by the actions of a few. Certainly the Catholic church has had its share of a few bad eggs by those that were suppose to be the example and light of the Catholic church. It doesn't mean that is part of the Catholic lifestyle. The same applies to the gay community. When I hear anyone condemn an entire group by even a very small minority of individuals in that group, I think they are only trying to justify their own bigotry whether it be towards the Catholic church or the gay community.. I hope this post doesn't appear as being argumentative. I am just trying to understand how you feel about what you posted. Do you think that the examples you gave justifies condemning gay pride parades? I am also curious why you went to two gay pride parades. On the whole did you enjoy them? How did it effect your views on the gay community? Would you recommend others to go to a gay pride parade?First of all, I don't condemn such parades. I find them irrelevant. They speak to a form of desperation, e.g., "I'm here, I'm queer, get use to it" attitude. I think a confrontational approach, no matter how benign, lends to stereotypes and bigotry. Secondly, by way of clarification, I saw the parades on TV which in of of itself is myopic of me.The greatest opinion change I have felt is simply growing older and more respectful of others. As I have mentioned my niece is gay and she is a very sweet young girl whom I have seen blossom because of her seeming monogamous relationship. Seeing her and her obvious love for her companion is very moving and neither she or her partner has seen any discrimination in our overwhelming Mormon family, but neither has she thrust it in our faces. We have just quietly accepted her without question. I think the same goes for the gay community at large. Quiet acceptance is more easily given when quietly assumed.
california boy Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 First of all, I don't condemn such parades. I find them irrelevant. They act to a form of desperation, e.g., "I here, I'm queer, get use to it" attitude. I don't think a confrontational approach, no matter how benign, lends to stereotypes and bigotry. Secondly, by way of clarification, I saw the parades on TV which in of of itself is myopic.The greatest opinion change I have felt is simply growing older and more respectful of others. As I have mentioned my niece is gay and she is a very sweet young girl whom I have seen blossom because of her seeming monogamous relationship. Seeing her and her obvious love for her companion is very moving and neither she or her partner has seen any discrimination in our overwhelming Mormon family, but neither has she thrust in our faces. We have just quietly accepted her without question. I think the same goes for the gay community at large. Quiet acceptance is justified.Fair enough.
Ron Beron Posted June 26, 2012 Posted June 26, 2012 Fair enough. CB, my apologies for that last post. I proofread it too late and finally noticed all my typos. Sorry for any confusion.
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