Bill “Papa” Lee Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 One of the more insulting arguments made to Mormons (Christians) is when our critics refer to the “burning in the bosom”, as a “Maalox moment”. It is a point used to mock Mormons by Pastors and Layman alike. I just typed in the term “burning in the bosom” and found this…https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=burning+in+the+bosom+mormon&oq=%E2%80%9Cburning+in+the+bosom%E2%80%9D+&aq=0v&aqi=g-v7&aql=&gs_sm=c&gs_upl=2935l2935l0l6163l1l1l0l0l0l0l125l125l0.1l1l0No mater how you read the Bible, one thing is clear; anyone who believes either had a "Road to Damascus" or a "Road to Emmaus" experience. God does not revel himself via “flesh and blood” as Christ told Peter, but through his “Father in Heaven” or through the Holy Spirit via his Word. He does use historical means…in fact on the “Road to Emmaus” those who walked with him only knew by feeling (their hearts burning within them) and not by sight. Those who mock our beliefs concerning the Spirit, instead mock the Bible and the Words of Christ, who is the Word.Christ either makes himself known though his words and the Spirit or as he did with Saul (Paul) and how he will in the second coming. Those who claim to know God can only know him this way.It is true that our scripture (D&C) makes this a “Mormon Doctrine”, but it is one that is borrowed from the Bible itself. Those who mock; mock God himself!How did you come to know Christ? Was it a "Road to Damascus" or a "Road to Emmaus" moment? Because there is no other way.I would love some articles concerning this, or examples that I have missed. This is why I have it in this folder. I would like to here from those of any faith, as well as those who have lost faith.
Gervin Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) How did you come to know Christ? Was it a "Road to Damascus" or a "Road to Emmaus" moment? Because there is no other way. I believe it is dangerous to pre-scribe how someone comes to know Christ. Consider C.S. Lewis' conversion: It was on Sept. 22, 1931 that Lewis said yes to the Lord’s offer of himself — yes, according to his testimony, this was the exact day he became a Christian. It happened on a ride to the Whipsnade Zoo with his brother, Warren. Lewis tells about it in his book, Surprised by Joy: "I know very well when, but hardly how, the final step was taken. I was driven to Whipsnade one sunny morning. When we set out I did not believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and when we reached the zoo I did. Yet I had not exactly spent the journey in thought. Nor in great emotion.... It was more like when a man, after long sleep, still lying motionless in bed, becomes aware that he is now awake." One recalls the experience of the apostle Paul, who was also on a road trip, in his case from Jerusalem to Damascus. When Paul started out for Damascus, he did not know the Lord. He, no doubt, as a rabbi, had an ardent belief in the God of Israel. But he had not yet been encountered by the living Christ. So when he started his journey he did not know Christ, when he arrived at his destination at Damascus, he was a converted disciple of the Lord (Acts 9:1-20). Lewis, of course, was not struck down with blindness on the road to the zoo and didn’t hear the risen Christ audibly speaking to him. Nevertheless, the still quiet voice of Jesus had been dramatically impacting his mind and heart for some time, bringing him to the opportunity to utter the final yes.It's more about the journey - and what happens to you on the journey - than desiring or expecting that one single moment of the journey will be "a" or "the" defining moment of your pilgrimage. Edited January 31, 2012 by Gervin
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 I believe it is dangerous to pre-scribe how someone comes to know Christ. Consider C.S. Lewis' conversion: It was on Sept. 22, 1931 that Lewis said yes to the Lord’s offer of himself — yes, according to his testimony, this was the exact day he became a Christian. It happened on a ride to the Whipsnade Zoo with his brother, Warren. Lewis tells about it in his book, Surprised by Joy: "I know very well when, but hardly how, the final step was taken. I was driven to Whipsnade one sunny morning. When we set out I did not believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and when we reached the zoo I did. Yet I had not exactly spent the journey in thought. Nor in great emotion.... It was more like when a man, after long sleep, still lying motionless in bed, becomes aware that he is now awake."One recalls the experience of the apostle Paul, who was also on a road trip, in his case from Jerusalem to Damascus. When Paul started out for Damascus, he did not know the Lord. He, no doubt, as a rabbi, had an ardent belief in the God of Israel. But he had not yet been encountered by the living Christ. So when he started his journey he did not know Christ, when he arrived at his destination at Damascus, he was a converted disciple of the Lord (Acts 9:1-20).Lewis, of course, was not struck down with blindness on the road to the zoo and didn’t hear the risen Christ audibly speaking to him. Nevertheless, the still quiet voice of Jesus had been dramatically impacting his mind and heart for some time, bringing him to the opportunity to utter the final yes.It's more about the journey - and what happens to you on the journey - than desiring or expecting that one single moment of the journey will be "a" or "the" defining moment of your pilgrimage.I am trying to be scriptural, not dangerous. His story seems to support my comments. (see highlighted comments).
Mark Beesley Posted February 1, 2012 Posted February 1, 2012 No mater how you read the Bible, one thing is clear; anyone who believes either had a "Road to Damascus" or a "Road to Emmaus" experience. God does not revel himself via “flesh and blood” as Christ told Peter, but through his “Father in Heaven” or through the Holy Spirit via his Word. He does use historical means…in fact on the “Road to Emmaus” those who walked with him only knew by feeling (their hearts burning within them) and not by sight. Those who mock our beliefs concerning the Spirit, instead mock the Bible and the Words of Christ, who is the Word.The story of the disciples on the Road to Emmaus is interesting. I was reading it just this morning.The disciples were on their journey when Christ joined them, but for some reason they did not recognize Him. It says, their eyes were holden, which I believe indicates that their recognition of the Lord was purposely hindered. They spent the day with the Lord, and into the evening, at which time the scriptures say that the Lord "took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them." Luke 24:30. In other words, the Lord administered the sacrament to these two disciples. At this point, their eyes were opened, they recognized Christ, and He promply disappears. Only after this witness with their eyes are they able to look back and recognize the burning in their bosom as a testimony of the truth of the things Christ was teaching them. 1
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted February 1, 2012 Author Posted February 1, 2012 The story of the disciples on the Road to Emmaus is interesting. I was reading it just this morning.The disciples were on their journey when Christ joined them, but for some reason they did not recognize Him. It says, their eyes were holden, which I believe indicates that their recognition of the Lord was purposely hindered. They spent the day with the Lord, and into the evening, at which time the scriptures say that the Lord "took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them." Luke 24:30. In other words, the Lord administered the sacrament to these two disciples. At this point, their eyes were opened, they recognized Christ, and He promply disappears. Only after this witness with their eyes are they able to look back and recognize the burning in their bosom as a testimony of the truth of the things Christ was teaching them.Great points...
Storm Rider Posted February 1, 2012 Posted February 1, 2012 Great points but EV and Catholics all overlook this scripture. It is an aberation and should be ignored. We are not interested in the Holy Spirit or his witness; reason is all that is necessary. Welcome to Satan's world.Do not equate Satan to other religions. You are removed from the thread.
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