Zakuska Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) SG,Speaking of buying Gas on Sunday...Luke 13:1515 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his *** from the stall, and lead him away to watering?If your ride is out of gas on a Sunday and you can't go to your meetings or visit the sick or visit family because of it... don't swet it. Its better to get the gas and go do good than it is to sit home and pine the day away. Note: Im not advocating making a habit of buying your gas on Sunday. Edited August 31, 2011 by Zakuska
shalamabobbi Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 Thank you, Shalamabobbi. Here is D&C 59:12D&C 59:12But remember that on this, the Lord’s day, thou shalt offer thine oblations and thy sacraments unto the Most High, confessing thy sins unto thy brethren, and before the Lord.This doesn't say anything about the first day of the week. Genesis 2:2-3 (emphasis added)And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.According to Genesis, the seventh day was the day that was sanctified for the day of rest. The ancient church continued to celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday until the Council of Laodecia which was held in 363AD. At that time, the RCC officially changed the day of rest to be on Sunday. One of the ideas used to support this change was that Sunday was te day of Jesus' Resurrection. However, it appears that their number one reason for choosing Sunday was so the Christian's would not Judaize the Christian's day of rest. They claim they had received the divine authority to make the day of rest any day of the week they wanted to. I'm just curious to know if we have anything spoken or written by Latter-Day prophets about this? Regards,joIt was a quote from the church's web site. I believe the revelation came on a particular day of the week. They also quoted a couple of verses from the new testament as well. I will let you look it up and do your own homework..
Silver Girl Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 SG,Speaking of buying Gas on Sunday...Luke 13:1515 The Lord then answered him, and said, Thou hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or his *** from the stall, and lead him away to watering?If your ride is out of gas on a Sunday and you can't go to your meetings or visit the sick or visit family because of it... don't swet it. Its better to get the gas and go do good than it is to sit home and pine the day away. Note: Im not advocating making a habit of buying your gas on Sunday.I agree with you Zak...I do a lot of travelling now, as our District covers all of the northern half of our state... There are simply times when my "ride is out of gas"... And, I do gas up on Sunday, and don't feel a moments guilt about it... (I also take the oppertunity to use the facilities too... This old girl's plumbing aint what she used to be!!)...I do compromise with the Lord, and do not buy food, drinks or snacks while on these trips... I take my own in a cooler... I figure it is a fair trade!!I love my calling, and do my best to serve with "full purpose of heart", and sometimes that also requires a full tank of gas!! LOLSilver Girl
Zakuska Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 (edited) I agree with you Zak...I do a lot of travelling now, as our District covers all of the northern half of our state... There are simply times when my "ride is out of gas"... And, I do gas up on Sunday, and don't feel a moments guilt about it... (I also take the oppertunity to use the facilities too... This old girl's plumbing aint what she used to be!!)...I do compromise with the Lord, and do not buy food, drinks or snacks while on these trips... I take my own in a cooler... I figure it is a fair trade!!I love my calling, and do my best to serve with "full purpose of heart", and sometimes that also requires a full tank of gas!! LOLSilver GirlI think us Utah Mormons since the temples, ward houses etc. etc. are so close get caught up in the Sabbath keeping thing and the Pharaseeistic tabboos of taking too many steps to go to the bathroom that go along with it and start preaching to the chior and telling the preacher to sit down. Edited August 31, 2011 by Zakuska
thesometimesaint Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 jo1952:Jesus appeared to the Apostles on the day after the Jewish Sabbath, and they referred to it as the "Lords Day" after that. We celebrate the Resurrection on the Christian Sabbath. BTW. In Muslim countries we choose a differnt day to celebrate the Sabbath. Can't remember off hand what it is.
Storm Rider Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 jo1952:Jesus appeared to the Apostles on the day after the Jewish Sabbath, and they referred to it as the "Lords Day" after that. We celebrate the Resurrection on the Christian Sabbath. BTW. In Muslim countries we choose a differnt day to celebrate the Sabbath. Can't remember off hand what it is.We celebrate Sabbath every Friday here in the UAE.
thesometimesaint Posted August 31, 2011 Posted August 31, 2011 Storm Rider:Thanx. Of all the things I've lost in my life I miss my mind the most.
jo1952 Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 We celebrate Sabbath every Friday here in the UAE.Thank you, Storm Rider, as this IS interesting to know. Is this done in order to protect Christians? Or is it because this the day that Christians are "allowed" to worship?Regards,jo
jo1952 Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) jo1952:Jesus appeared to the Apostles on the day after the Jewish Sabbath, and they referred to it as the "Lords Day" after that. We celebrate the Resurrection on the Christian Sabbath. BTW. In Muslim countries we choose a differnt day to celebrate the Sabbath. Can't remember off hand what it is.Thank you, Sometimesaint. I had no idea that a different day had been chosen for Muslim countries.The only references I can find in scripture about "the Lord's day" seem to be pointing to the day when Christ returns. I can't find anything that says the Apostles considered the first day of the week to be the Lord's day. I went to the Church's website as Shalamabobbi suggested and the only reference to scripture about the Sabbath (that I have been able to find so far) references this:Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight. This is still not clear that it is actually the "Sabbath" they are celebrating. I think that whenever the disciples got together that they would "break bread". Additionally, if this WAS the Sabbath day, then wouldn't they have already "broken bread" with the other members of the church? This is a meeting between only Paul and the disciples; not a meeting that is akin to our Sacrament meeting. Anyway, I am going to continue to search as it concerns me that we are using the same day of the week which the RCC chose to celebrate the Sabbath. Since the RCC made such a big deal as to why they were CHANGING the day from Saturday TO Sunday in the year 363AD, this indicates to me that the ancient church had been celebrating the Sabbath on Saturday. Since we are the Restored Church, I would have expected us to be celebrating the Sabbath on the same day as the ancient church did. Regards,jo Edited September 1, 2011 by jo1952
volgadon Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 Thank you, Storm Rider, as this IS interesting to know. Is this done in order to protect Christians? Or is it because this the day that Christians are "allowed" to worship?Regards,joIn Muslim countries, as Storm noted, worship is held on Friday, and in Israel my homeland on Saturday. Both the reasons you were asking about are incorrect, the real reason is a lot more mundane. It is very hard to get the time off of work, school, etc., on a day other than the state's main day of worship. I would never have been able to make it to church if we held meetings on Sunday, as you can only miss so much school without being held back, and can only be absent so often from work without getting fired. A great deal of Arab Catholics in Israel are what we would consider inactive. Take for instance my coworkers in the cannery. They were Catholic but worked in a factory owned by Jews, where Friday was a short day and on Sabbath it was closed in order to stay kosher. They had to work Sundays and could rarely attend their church services on Sunday. If the cannery were to close for all days of worship it would only have been open Monday through Thursday, as many Muslims worked there as well.Our decision to compromise on the day of worship according to the local situation is a wise one.
jo1952 Posted September 1, 2011 Posted September 1, 2011 In Muslim countries, as Storm noted, worship is held on Friday, and in Israel my homeland on Saturday. Both the reasons you were asking about are incorrect, the real reason is a lot more mundane. It is very hard to get the time off of work, school, etc., on a day other than the state's main day of worship. I would never have been able to make it to church if we held meetings on Sunday, as you can only miss so much school without being held back, and can only be absent so often from work without getting fired. A great deal of Arab Catholics in Israel are what we would consider inactive. Take for instance my coworkers in the cannery. They were Catholic but worked in a factory owned by Jews, where Friday was a short day and on Sabbath it was closed in order to stay kosher. They had to work Sundays and could rarely attend their church services on Sunday. If the cannery were to close for all days of worship it would only have been open Monday through Thursday, as many Muslims worked there as well.Our decision to compromise on the day of worship according to the local situation is a wise one.Hi Volgadon!Thank you so much for the information. I was unaware that the Muslim's main day of worship was Friday. Living in the USA, I have not been exposed very much (except through the Media) to how life is lived in foreign countries. It's unfortunate that the Catholic church does not allow her members to change their day of worship so that they can attend services according to the country they are living in. Best regards,jo
LeSellers Posted September 1, 2011 Author Posted September 1, 2011 It's unfortunate that the Catholic church does not allow her members to change their day of worship so that they can attend services according to the country they are living in. Muslims worship in Fridays in USmerica, just as Catholics worship on Sunday in Syria or wherever. Catholics look to Constantine and Sol Invitus. Muslims must have a similar touch stone for their practice. We Saints go by the spirit of the one-day-in-seven and day-of-rest ideas. When God told Jsoeph we should worship on Sabbath, He did not specify which day of the week it must fall.Lehi
jo1952 Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 Muslims worship in Fridays in USmerica, just as Catholics worship on Sunday in Syria or wherever. Catholics look to Constantine and Sol Invitus. Muslims must have a similar touch stone for their practice. We Saints go by the spirit of the one-day-in-seven and day-of-rest ideas. When God told Jsoeph we should worship on Sabbath, He did not specify which day of the week it must fall.LehiThank you, Lehi! jo
Yirgacheffe Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 Hi Volgadon!Thank you so much for the information. I was unaware that the Muslim's main day of worship was Friday. Living in the USA, I have not been exposed very much (except through the Media) to how life is lived in foreign countries. It's unfortunate that the Catholic church does not allow her members to change their day of worship so that they can attend services according to the country they are living in. Best regards,joMy next door neighbor goes to church on Saturday and she's Catholic so I think they could unless it's just a US thing.
jo1952 Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 My next door neighbor goes to church on Saturday and she's Catholic so I think they could unless it's just a US thing.Hi Yirgacheffe!Your comment has helped me to remember something. Though I do understand some of the beliefs of the Catholics, I do not understand why Mass (unless, of course, it is for the purpose of celebrating holidays which land on a specific date as opposed to a specific day of the week) is available at times other than on their regularly scheduled Sabbath day. For instance, do those like your neighbor attend a Saturday evening Mass in lieu of attending regular services? I do recall that, at least in many years past, that a Mass could be included in a wedding ceremony. What I don't remember about those ceremonies which I attended, is if they took place on a Sunday or not. I am certainly missing something in my understanding. Perhaps the purpose of Mass is something different then what I would identify as the Catholic version of the LDS Sacrament meeting. I also remember that there is a "High Mass" - I don't recall what the difference is; maybe a High Mass includes the Sacrament?? Mostly, I remember that when I did attend a Mass, it was still spoken in Latin. I'm going to have to do some researching to refresh my memory....Regards,jo
Calm Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) Perhaps the purpose of Mass is something different then what I would identify as the Catholic version of the LDS Sacrament meeting. This looks like a decent article on the purpose and other aspects of the Mass: http://www.americanc...s/cu/ac0889.aspAbout celebrating on other days:Normally, Mass must be celebrated in a consecrated or blessed Church (private oratories or even rooms are allowed for special reasons: see Le Vavasseur, I, 200-4) and at a consecrated altar (or at least on a consecrated altar-stone), and may be celebrated on any day in the year except Good Friday (restrictions are made against private celebrations on Holy Saturday and in the case of private oratories for certain great feasts) at any time between dawn and midday. A priest may say only one Mass each day, except that on Christmas Day he may say three, and the first may (or rather, should) then be said immediately after midnight. In some countries (Spain and Portugal) a priest may also celebrate three times on All Souls' Day (2 November). Bishops may give leave to a priest to celebrate twice on Sundays and feasts of obligation, if otherwise the people could not fulfil their duty of hearing Mass. In cathedral and collegiate churches, as well as in those of religious orders who are bound to say the Canonical Hours every day publicly, there is a daily Mass corresponding to the Office and forming with it the complete cycle of the public worship of God. This official public Mass is called the conventual Mass; if possible it should be a high Mass, but, even if it be not, it always has some of the features of high Mass. The time for this conventual Mass on feasts and Sundays is after Terce has been said in choir. On Simples and feriæ the time is after Sext; on feriæ of Advent, Lent, on Vigils and Ember days after None. Votive Masses and the Requiem on All Souls' Day are said also after None; but ordinary requiems are said after Prime. The celebrant of Mass must be in the state of grace, fasting from midnight, free of irregularity and censure, and must observe all the rubrics and laws concerning the matter (azyme bread and pure wine), vestments, vessels, and ceremony....skipped a couple of paragraphs you may want to read...It is these parts of the Mass that vary, and, because of them, we speak of the Mass of such a day or of such a feast. To be able to find the Mass for any given day requires knowledge of a complicated set of rules. These rules are given in the rubrics at the beginning of the Missal. In outline the system is this. First a Mass is provided for every day in the year, according to the seasons of the Church. Ordinary week days (feriæ) have the Mass of the preceding Sunday with certain regular changes; but feriæ of Lent, rogation and ember days, and vigils have special Masses. All this makes up the first part of the Missal called Proprium de tempore. The year is then overladen, as it were, by a great quantity of feasts of saints or of special events determined by the day of the month (these make up the Proprium Sanctorum). Nearly every day in the year is now a feast of some kind; often there are several on one day. There is then constantly coincidence (concurrentia) of several possible Masses on one day. There are cases in which two or more conventual Masses are said, one for each of the coinciding offices. Thus, on feriæ that have a special office, if a feast occurs as well, the Mass of the feast is said after Terce, that of the feria after None. If a feast falls on the Eve of Ascension Day there are three Conventual Masses — of the feast after Terce, of the Vigil after Sext, of Rogation day after None. But, in churches that have no official conventual Mass and in the case of the priest who says Mass for his own devotion, one only of the coinciding Masses is said, the others being (usually) commemorated by saying their collects, secrets, and post-Communions after those of the Mass chosen. To know which Mass to choose one must know their various degrees of dignity. All days or feasts are arranged in this scale: feria, simple, semidouble double, greater double, double of the second class, double of the first class. The greater feast then is the one kept: by transferring feasts to the next free day, it is arranged that two feasts of the same rank do not coincide. Certain important days are privileged, so that a higher feast cannot displace them. Thus nothing can displace the first Sundays of Advent and Lent, Passion and Palm Sundays. These are the so-called first-class Sundays. In the same way nothing can displace Ash Wednesday or any day of Holy Week. Other days (for instance the so-called second-class Sundays, that is the others in Advent and Lent, and Septuagesima, Sexagesima, and Quinquagesima) can only be replaced by doubles of the first class. Ordinary Sundays count as semidoubles, but have precedence over other semidoubles. The days of an octave are semidoubles; the octave day is a double. The octaves of Epiphany, Easter, and Pentecost (the original three greatest feasts of all) are closed against any other feast. The displaced feast is commemorated, except in the case of a great inferiority: the rules for this are given among the "Rubricæ generales" of the Missal (VII: de Commemorationibus). On semidoubles and days below that in rank other collects are always added to that of the day to make up an uneven number. Certain ones are prescribed regularly in the Missal, the celebrant may add others at his discretion. The bishop of the diocese may also order collects for special reasons (the so-called Orationes imperat ). As a general rule the Mass must correspond to the Office of the day, including its commemorations. But the Missal contains a collection of Votive Masses, that may be said on days not above a semidouble in rank. The bishop or pope may order a Votive Mass for a public cause to be said on any day but the very highest. All these rules are explained in detail by Le Vavasseur (op. cit., I, 216-31) as well as in the rubrics of the Missal (Rubr. gen., IV). There are two other Masses which, inasmuch as they do not correspond to the office, may be considered a kind of Votive Mass: the Nuptial Mass (missa pro sponso et sponsa), said at weddings, and the Requiem Mass, said for the faithful departed, which have a number of special characteristics (see NUPTIAL MASS and REQUIEM MASS). The calendar (Ordo) published yearly in each diocese or province gives the office and Mass for every day. (Concerning Mass stipends, see SACRIFICE OF THE MASS.)http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09790b.htm Edited September 2, 2011 by calmoriah
Calm Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) In regards to Sunday Mass:http://www.scborrome...s1c3a3.htm#20412042 The first precept ("You shall attend Mass on Sundays and holy days of obligation and rest from servile labor") requires the faithful to sanctify the day commemorating the Resurrection of the Lord as well as the principal liturgical feasts honoring the mysteries of the Lord, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and the saints; in the first place, by participating in the Eucharistic celebration, in which the Christian community is gathered, and by resting from those works and activities which could impede such a sanctification of these days.82The CCC is the Catechism of the Catholic Church...more or less the official manual on what being Catholic means and how to live a Catholic life with doctrine and commentary and references included.Teaching about the Eucharist:http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s2c1a3.htm Edited September 2, 2011 by calmoriah
jo1952 Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 In regards to Sunday Mass:http://www.scborrome...s1c3a3.htm#2041The CCC is the Catechism of the Catholic Church...more or less the official manual on what being Catholic means and how to live a Catholic life with doctrine and commentary and references included.Teaching about the Eucharist:http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc/p2s2c1a3.htmHi Calmoriah!Thank you very much for all of the helpful links and information! I had no idea it was this complex. Best regards,jo
Calm Posted September 2, 2011 Posted September 2, 2011 Hi Calmoriah!Thank you very much for all of the helpful links and information! I had no idea it was this complex. Best regards,joI used the CCC as bedtime reading for about a year. It is massive but relatively easy to read. Some of the websites that have a more academic slant to them are quite overwhelming to read.
Yirgacheffe Posted September 3, 2011 Posted September 3, 2011 I used the CCC as bedtime reading for about a year. It is massive but relatively easy to read. Some of the websites that have a more academic slant to them are quite overwhelming to read.Like the one you quoted, it seemed to expect an understanding that non-members don't have. Or maybe it's just me, I couldn't quite follow it??
jo1952 Posted September 3, 2011 Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) Like the one you quoted, it seemed to expect an understanding that non-members don't have. Or maybe it's just me, I couldn't quite follow it??I'm with you, Yirgacheffe. I thought that his links were a little overwhelming. Then when he said they were relatively easy, compared to others, I thought there must be something wrong with me. Maybe having access to a Catholic dictionary would help; that and a Catholic calendar. If I could learn and get used to their terminology, it would not seem so foreign to me. Sigh...Best regards,jo Edited September 3, 2011 by jo1952
Calm Posted September 3, 2011 Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) I'm with you, Yirgacheffe. I thought that his links were a little overwhelming. Then when he said they were relatively easy, compared to others, I thought there must be something wrong with me. Maybe having access to a Catholic dictionary would help; that and a Catholic calendar. If I could learn and get used to their terminology, it would not seem so foreign to me. Sigh...The first link was in the form of a letter, IIRC, and I found it easy to understand and that is why I posted it first. Perhaps I have read enough it was not a problem to follow. The links that followed that went into historical development etc. were difficult and I posted mainly to show that there is a system to the variations. I find the CCC easier when read as a whole (it has scriptures and other stuff as footnotes), but it can be problematic understanding why if you don't read it in context. I posted that as a 'statement of fact' so to speak, not as an description of how things were done, but why.There are some simpler websites, but they may not be as 'authoritative'. I prefer using the Vatican website and the CCC as much as possible as that is as authoritative as you can get.PS: this is the link I thought was 'easy': http://www.americancatholic.org/newsletters/cu/ac0889.asp Edited September 3, 2011 by calmoriah
jo1952 Posted September 3, 2011 Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) The first link was in the form of a letter, IIRC, and I found it easy to understand and that is why I posted it first. Perhaps I have read enough it was not a problem to follow. The links that followed that went into historical development etc. were difficult and I posted mainly to show that there is a system to the variations. I find the CCC easier when read as a whole (it has scriptures and other stuff as footnotes), but it can be problematic understanding why if you don't read it in context. I posted that as a 'statement of fact' so to speak, not as an description of how things were done, but why.There are some simpler websites, but they may not be as 'authoritative'. I prefer using the Vatican website and the CCC as much as possible as that is as authoritative as you can get.PS: this is the link I thought was 'easy': http://www.americancatholic.org/newsletters/cu/ac0889.aspHi Calmoriah!You were kind enough to present the information in response to my admitted ignorance about the Mass. You aren't the one who made it difficult to understand; the RCC did. You DO have the advantage, however, of already having educated yourself about this subject; and I am thankful for that! This gives you the ability of recognizing which sources are the most reliable to use to get the best understanding.Thank you for all of the links you have provided! Best regards,joP.S. Regarding the site with the newsletter, I found it easier as well! It was also more interesting by providing practical insight. Edited September 3, 2011 by jo1952
Yirgacheffe Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 The first link was in the form of a letter, IIRC, and I found it easy to understand and that is why I posted it first. Perhaps I have read enough it was not a problem to follow. The links that followed that went into historical development etc. were difficult and I posted mainly to show that there is a system to the variations. I find the CCC easier when read as a whole (it has scriptures and other stuff as footnotes), but it can be problematic understanding why if you don't read it in context. I posted that as a 'statement of fact' so to speak, not as an description of how things were done, but why.There are some simpler websites, but they may not be as 'authoritative'. I prefer using the Vatican website and the CCC as much as possible as that is as authoritative as you can get.PS: this is the link I thought was 'easy': http://www.americancatholic.org/newsletters/cu/ac0889.aspYes I though that article was simple enough and even the catechism links were okay, it was this I was finding difficult:Normally, Mass must be celebrated in a consecrated or blessed Church (private oratories or even rooms are allowed for special reasons: see Le Vavasseur, I, 200-4) and at a consecrated altar (or at least on a consecrated altar-stone), and may be celebrated on any day in the year except Good Friday (restrictions are made against private celebrations on Holy Saturday and in the case of private oratories for certain great feasts) at any time between dawn and midday. A priest may say only one Mass each day, except that on Christmas Day he may say three, and the first may (or rather, should) then be said immediately after midnight. In some countries (Spain and Portugal) a priest may also celebrate three times on All Souls' Day (2 November). Bishops may give leave to a priest to celebrate twice on Sundays and feasts of obligation, if otherwise the people could not fulfil their duty of hearing Mass. In cathedral and collegiate churches, as well as in those of religious orders who are bound to say the Canonical Hours every day publicly, there is a daily Mass corresponding to the Office and forming with it the complete cycle of the public worship of God. This official public Mass is called the conventual Mass; if possible it should be a high Mass, but, even if it be not, it always has some of the features of high Mass. The time for this conventual Mass on feasts and Sundays is after Terce has been said in choir. On Simples and feriæ the time is after Sext; on feriæ of Advent, Lent, on Vigils and Ember days after None. Votive Masses and the Requiem on All Souls' Day are said also after None; but ordinary requiems are said after Prime. The celebrant of Mass must be in the state of grace, fasting from midnight, free of irregularity and censure, and must observe all the rubrics and laws concerning the matter (azyme bread and pure wine), vestments, vessels, and ceremony....skipped a couple of paragraphs you may want to read...It is these parts of the Mass that vary, and, because of them, we speak of the Mass of such a day or of such a feast. To be able to find the Mass for any given day requires knowledge of a complicated set of rules. These rules are given in the rubrics at the beginning of the Missal. In outline the system is this. First a Mass is provided for every day in the year, according to the seasons of the Church. Ordinary week days (feriæ) have the Mass of the preceding Sunday with certain regular changes; but feriæ of Lent, rogation and ember days, and vigils have special Masses. All this makes up the first part of the Missal called Proprium de tempore. The year is then overladen, as it were, by a great quantity of feasts of saints or of special events determined by the day of the month (these make up the Proprium Sanctorum). Nearly every day in the year is now a feast of some kind; often there are several on one day. There is then constantly coincidence (concurrentia) of several possible Masses on one day. There are cases in which two or more conventual Masses are said, one for each of the coinciding offices. Thus, on feriæ that have a special office, if a feast occurs as well, the Mass of the feast is said after Terce, that of the feria after None. If a feast falls on the Eve of Ascension Day there are three Conventual Masses — of the feast after Terce, of the Vigil after Sext, of Rogation day after None. But, in churches that have no official conventual Mass and in the case of the priest who says Mass for his own devotion, one only of the coinciding Masses is said, the others being (usually) commemorated by saying their collects, secrets, and post-Communions after those of the Mass chosen. To know which Mass to choose one must know their various degrees of dignity. All days or feasts are arranged in this scale: feria, simple, semidouble double, greater double, double of the second class, double of the first class. The greater feast then is the one kept: by transferring feasts to the next free day, it is arranged that two feasts of the same rank do not coincide. Certain important days are privileged, so that a higher feast cannot displace them. Thus nothing can displace the first Sundays of Advent and Lent, Passion and Palm Sundays. These are the so-called first-class Sundays. In the same way nothing can displace Ash Wednesday or any day of Holy Week. Other days (for instance the so-called second-class Sundays, that is the others in Advent and Lent, and Septuagesima, Sexagesima, and Quinquagesima) can only be replaced by doubles of the first class. Ordinary Sundays count as semidoubles, but have precedence over other semidoubles. The days of an octave are semidoubles; the octave day is a double. The octaves of Epiphany, Easter, and Pentecost (the original three greatest feasts of all) are closed against any other feast. The displaced feast is commemorated, except in the case of a great inferiority: the rules for this are given among the "Rubricæ generales" of the Missal (VII: de Commemorationibus). On semidoubles and days below that in rank other collects are always added to that of the day to make up an uneven number. Certain ones are prescribed regularly in the Missal, the celebrant may add others at his discretion. The bishop of the diocese may also order collects for special reasons (the so-called Orationes imperat ). As a general rule the Mass must correspond to the Office of the day, including its commemorations. But the Missal contains a collection of Votive Masses, that may be said on days not above a semidouble in rank. The bishop or pope may order a Votive Mass for a public cause to be said on any day but the very highest. All these rules are explained in detail by Le Vavasseur (op. cit., I, 216-31) as well as in the rubrics of the Missal (Rubr. gen., IV). There are two other Masses which, inasmuch as they do not correspond to the office, may be considered a kind of Votive Mass: the Nuptial Mass (missa pro sponso et sponsa), said at weddings, and the Requiem Mass, said for the faithful departed, which have a number of special characteristics (see NUPTIAL MASS and REQUIEM MASS). The calendar (Ordo) published yearly in each diocese or province gives the office and Mass for every day. (Concerning Mass stipends, see SACRIFICE OF THE MASS.) When I went to the link it was like a word avalanche 1
auteur55 Posted September 4, 2011 Posted September 4, 2011 I've had a hard time with the law of the Sabbath my whole life. I mean I get the commandment. We take one day a week to rest from our labours and focus our activities around the Lord. It's good to have a day to reflect on spiritual matters and to get go to church meetings and partake of the sacrament.What I don't get is why the day, for some people, is like a prison cell. I remember growing up and despising the Sabbath when I was younger. It was a day of monotony and restriction. You can't play with friends, engage in any real activities, you can't buy a drink if your thirsty or watch your favorite TV show. You had to sit in boring meetings all morning and then come home and sit in a prison cell where you second guess everything you do and say. I couldn't wait for the day to be over so I could be normal again.Now as I've gotten older I've taken a different approach to the Sabbath. I take the Lord at his word when he says it was made for man. A day of rest from the usual hustle of the week. I go on activities, spend quality uplifting time with my family. We'll go to parks, meet family at different places for fun activities, sit on the beach and enjoy the majesty of God's creation. Sometimes I'll engage a good book or have a family movie night with the family. I am trying to raise my daughter with a love for the day where she can shift focus and experience a new kind of freedom. For the life of me I can't understand why certain activities are bad for us. Why is throwing the ball with your son Sunday evening a negative thing? How is it taking you away from God? I heard a testimony where a sister said she had to repent because she did laundry on the Sabbath. She had forgot to wash something she needed and had no choice. She was talking about how guilty she felt for this. I don't understand this way of thinking. How does picking up a load o clothes, moving them two feet to a washer and pushing a button desecrate the sabbath? Why can we clean the dishes after eating a meal but can't clean up a few of the other messes. Especially since, at times, our Saturdays are filled with other activities like church meetings, elders quorum moves and family trips. Sometimes I feel like we turn the Lord's commandments into such a restrictive lifestyle that we bleed any of the fun out of life.
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