stab-westward Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Hi my name is Stab. HAH. In real life my name is Jon.Recently one of my children has been listening to BAD music. Music with BAD language in it.All his friends listen to the same music. I catch him listening to it on his iPod or on youtube countless times.I try to explain to him that I do not want him to listen to this music, because I fear that he will start using the same language he hears.Anyone go through this?
paisley Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Hey Stab,Yes this is a hard issue for me too. I have a daughter and I am afraid that if I actively try to prevent her from listening to bad music she will just try to hide it.
stab-westward Posted February 24, 2011 Author Posted February 24, 2011 Hey Stab,Yes this is a hard issue for me too. I have a daughter and I am afraid that if I actively try to prevent her from listening to bad music she will just try to hide it.Nice to meet you Paisley. I am new here.I want them to understand that I do not want to see it as me being controlling, but as me looking out forbad things that will pollute their mind. I guess I wonder at what age should you let your child listen to the same music/movies/TV shows as their friends?
TAO Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Yes, you should tell him to be wary of bad music - because even though the words won't be infective necessarily to speech, they could be infective inside your brain... which is in it's own way, worse, imo.
LDS Guy 1986 Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Hi my name is Stab. HAH. In real life my name is Jon.Recently one of my children has been listening to BAD music. Music with BAD language in it.All his friends listen to the same music. I catch him listening to it on his iPod or on youtube countless times.I try to explain to him that I do not want him to listen to this music, because I fear that he will start using the same language he hears.Anyone go through this?Well I am not a father yet, but I have struggled with refraining from listening to profane and vulgar music after I converted to the Church. Giving up some of my favorite music was not easy, it took a lot of prayer to understand that these lyrics are not spiritually health for anyone, even more so for a teenager or young adult. I think the best course of action is to lead by example here, when your in the car listen only to LDS or Christian contemporary music. Let your children see that you seek after the Lord when you make choices about what entertainment you will listen to. I know that profane music leads to profane language, I know that suggestive lyrics can lead to temptations. The apostles have counciled us on this and think the best solution here is much bearing of testimony, much prayer, and to not try and force anything on anyone.
ERayR Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Well I am not a father yet, but I have struggled with refraining from listening to profane and vulgar music after I converted to the Church. Well I am a father of many years. You all sound like your afraid to be a parent. It's your job to set the boundries. Whether or not the kids choose to stay within them is their choice. Then you have to deal with that but that is a different issue.
frankenstein Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Hi my name is Stab. HAH. In real life my name is Jon.Recently one of my children has been listening to BAD music. Music with BAD language in it.All his friends listen to the same music. I catch him listening to it on his iPod or on youtube countless times.I try to explain to him that I do not want him to listen to this music, because I fear that he will start using the same language he hears.Anyone go through this?what country do you live in? I can as a former teenager, you BETTER BE CONSISTENT. If you don't want your child listening to inappropriate language, YOU better not listen to inappropriate music, tv, anything.
Pahoran Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Yes, you should tell him to be wary of bad music - because even though the words won't be infective necessarily to speech, they could be infective inside your brain... which is in it's own way, worse, imo."Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't knowThe piper's calling you to join him..." Led Zeppelin.Regards,Pahoran
Deborah Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Years ago when I my daughter was a teen we were driving and she had turned on her station. As I listened I was shocked and turned the station. I asked her "Do you know what this song is saying." She acted surprised and said no, she just liked the beat. Every parent struggles with this at some point. Heavy Metal was the big thing when my kids were young.
frankenstein Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 "Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't knowThe piper's calling you to join him..." Led Zeppelin.Regards,Pahoranawesome (I am partial to Battle of Evermore and Misty Mountain Hop)What does stairway to heaven really mean.Your head is humming and it won't go, in case you don't know, The piper's calling you to join him, (Jesus said I will knock on the door...) Rev 3:20
rpn Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) BTDT, and then I owned IPODS and other electrical devices for a time, which they eventually earned back through good behavior. Some learned their lesson. Others lost the music devices multiple times before learning. All argued that they didn't even hear the lyrics ---- which I wasn't sure was false, but knew it didn't matter because their subconscious did and I wasn't letting them use things that I funded to destroy their hearing and their spirit.ETA: I also took them to a Christian music store to point out that they could hear the same type of music without polluting their mind.ETA: And while you are at it, you might screen for more than bad language ---- it is pretty hard to find music these days without misogynist, destructive, violent, selfish and a variety of other not so good things lyrics. Edited February 24, 2011 by rpn
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 Hey Stab,Yes this is a hard issue for me too. I have a daughter and I am afraid that if I actively try to prevent her from listening to bad music she will just try to hide it.So, what are you going to do?I might suggest that you activly try and prevent her from listening to it. Remember that you own everything in your house and you are in control. I simply won't put up with it in my house. Good luck.
stab-westward Posted February 25, 2011 Author Posted February 25, 2011 what country do you live in? I can as a former teenager, you BETTER BE CONSISTENT. If you don't want your child listening to inappropriate language, YOU better not listen to inappropriate music, tv, anything.Well thats the hard part about it, I still listen to the radio, and love rock music myself/in my teens and 20s.BUT an 11yearold ? -- I am talking about rap music where there is derogatory language about women,incessant profanity, and racist words used CONSTANTLY. I have always let him watch TV and listen to the radio, but with iPods and Youtube, he has access touncensored music that is completely inappropriate for anyone of ANY age to listen to. I have taken the iPod awayand deleted all music that might have bad material in it off the device -- but I know its only a temporary solution.Just having a hard time drawing a line and being consistent as a parent.Will pray on it.
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Hi my name is Stab. HAH. In real life my name is Jon.Recently one of my children has been listening to BAD music. Music with BAD language in it.All his friends listen to the same music. I catch him listening to it on his iPod or on youtube countless times.I try to explain to him that I do not want him to listen to this music, because I fear that he will start using the same language he hears.Anyone go through this?Sounds like you know what you are doing...protect your child, which you already seem to be doing.
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) Hi my name is Stab. HAH. In real life my name is Jon.Recently one of my children has been listening to BAD music. Music with BAD language in it.All his friends listen to the same music. I catch him listening to it on his iPod or on youtube countless times.I try to explain to him that I do not want him to listen to this music, because I fear that he will start using the same language he hears.Anyone go through this?Sorry...double post. Edited February 25, 2011 by Bill “Papa” Lee
blueadept Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Years ago when I my daughter was a teen we were driving and she had turned on her station. As I listened I was shocked and turned the station. I asked her "Do you know what this song is saying." She acted surprised and said no, she just liked the beat. Every parent struggles with this at some point. Heavy Metal was the big thing when my kids were young.As others have stated, this is a struggle for all parents in dealing with their kid's music. I was fortunate since I started to incorporate the the Top 25 into my Sunday plans and make a 10 minute Sunday lesson (RCC) out of it. My own kids became aware that I kept up with their music and they didn't want me to make comments like "Do we need to listen to the stripper song?" or 'this one is about suicide, why we listening to it?' My kids now police themselves fairly well.There's websites that help parents keep up with the current music and there is plenty of good stuff out there that's not just Christian/LDS type. That's a parent's job in helping our kids find it and make better choices.My 2 cents
Doctor Steuss Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) Hi Stab-Westward,I'm not a father (lucky break for the universe), and I Edited February 25, 2011 by Doctor Steuss 1
TAO Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Agreeing with Stu, yah, don't be too strict... rather than take away his songs... why not suggest he listen to better stuff and that =)
Obiwan Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 From the very beginning of life I have never allowed my children to be exposed to the obvious "immoral" music, music such as Rap, Punk, Heavy Metal, etc. And I always taught them to recognize such, and stay away from it. As a result they now do it themselves. They recognize the "spirit" of certain kinds of music, even if they don't have bad words in them. Train up a child in the ways they should do, and they shall not depart from it.As to "after the fact".... Well, that's going to be a lot harder, and you will likely not succeed because it is so a part of your child now. You're only option is to remove all "bad" music from his access, and play only "nice" music in your home. And if he try's to put the bad music back on his Ipod whatever, then take away his Ipod. You may also need to limit who he associates as friends. But, really, when it comes to this, there is no "easy" answer. It all depends on your child and your situation, what you need to do to start teaching him to make better choices as to music, first according to your wishes and then ultimately according to his own choice. The prophets have taught at times on music choices, so that maybe needs to be some stuff you need to take time teaching and studying with him.In my early 20's I threw out everything that I had in my music collection that might not bring the spirit or might detract from it. Got rid of some of the Hard Rock I had for example. I was always sensitive to the spirit of music, so I was already pretty discerning, but I realized that I needed to do even more, and I've never looked back.
Deborah Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) I other words, pick your battles. I surrounded my kids with classical and other beautiful music when they were young but unfortunately as they mingle with others it's not always easy to keep them from being exposed to those other things which are "in" and accepted by their friends. Edited February 27, 2011 by Deborah
stab-westward Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 I other words, pick your battles. I surrounded my kids with classical and other beautiful music when they were young but unfortunately as they mingle with others it's not always easy to keep them from being exposed to those other things which are "in" and accepted by their friends.Definitely understand what you are saying here.Picking my iPod battle -- BUTI'm not going to lose the war!
stab-westward Posted February 27, 2011 Author Posted February 27, 2011 Definitely understand what you are saying here.Picking my iPod battles -- BUTI'm not going to lose the war!
frankenstein Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 Agreeing with Stu, yah, don't be too strict... rather than take away his songs... why not suggest he listen to better stuff and that =)here is the problem I forsee, but I have no answer. One of the popular songs on the radio at the moment, the chorus is "I'm **doing naughty things to you** tonight"Now lets take a song from days gone by "My Baby does the hanky panky."Both songs are talking about the same thing one is more terribly vulgar the other is not. I do know that astute children can comprehend seeming double standards.
thesometimesaint Posted February 28, 2011 Posted February 28, 2011 frankenstein:Kids are more savvy than you think.
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