Sacred Sexuality and the Law of Chastity

[Brenda]

Actually yes it was. However, I have noticed that it is easy to become increasingly disconnected from our spouse if we neglect that part of our marriage so there is a valid argument for purposely increasing the frequency of marital intimacy if our marriage is suffering. The OP's case, of course is more complicated.

I agree. Something I learned from Dr. Laura, which I used when teaching the Marriage class in church: Sex is a man's way to connect with his wife, just as words are a woman's way to connect with her husband. A wife who withholds sex, is like her husband refusing to speak to her.

[Nathair/|\]

Really? The Law of Chastity is very simple. It's ok to have sex with your wife, and only with your wife. No sexual relations with anyone except your wife. Period. How much more light do you need???

Honestly, I got seriously thinking about it after all the threads concerning Pres. Packer's talk last conference. Before that, it was like here is a cool connection, maybe I will do something with it later. But then, I thought, "Maybe this is important."

You might want to steer clear of those alternative spiritual communities and get back to the Temple real soon.

I am working on getting back to the Temple ASAP. I have a theory about the apostasy in previous dispensations, but that's for another thread. For now, what did Brigham Young and Joseph Smith say about looking for truth wherever it can be found?

[katherine the great]

For now, what did Brigham Young and Joseph Smith say about looking for truth wherever it can be found?

Tthey did appreciate all truth. Being men of their time, neither of them probably spoke frankly about sex, but I think their actions indicate that they enjoyed that part of their marriages. I suspect they hoped all LDS men would be able to do the same.

[Zakuska]

Tthey did appreciate all truth. Being men of their time, neither of them probably spoke frankly about sex, but I think their actions indicate that they enjoyed that part of their marriages. I suspect they hoped all LDS men would be able to do the same.

Perhaps they should hand out the Kamasutra as a Relief Society suppliment next year.

[Nathair/|\]

Perhaps they should hand out the Kamasutra as a Relief Society suppliment next year.

[katherine the great]

Perhaps they should hand out the Kamasutra as a Relief Society suppliment next year.

You bet! (And a Mirriam-Webster Dictionary in Priesthood!)

[Zakuska]

You bet! (And a Mirriam-Webster Dictionary in Priesthood!)

Maybe that would improve my spelling on here too.

[katherine the great]

Maybe that would improve my spelling on here too.

Oh no Zacky! I didn't mean that. But as Brenda so aptly pointed out, women like nice words so with the dictionary for the guys and your suggestion for the gals, we can all be happy!

[Zakuska]

Oh no Zacky! I didn't mean that. But as Brenda so aptly pointed out, women like nice words so with the dictionary for the guys and your suggestion for the gals, we can all be happy!

Its all good... I know you didn't mean that. Just acknowledging my weeknesses.

We would have to add another hymn to the hymn book too.

"The bedchambers are alive... with the sound of music"

[LeSellers]

You bet! (And a Mirriam-Webster Dictionary in Priesthood!)

I'd suggest a thesaurus, instead (or in addition).

Lehi

[mfbukowski]

Nathair

I totally understand your frustration. I just found this thread after being off the boards for a spell.

I think the key to understanding what you are looking for, is to be found, oddly enough, in Paul. My recommendation to you is to do a search of the Epistles for the term "flesh" and read every surrounding context and you will find some very interesting things.

Why is it a commandment to be married for time and eternity? To become one flesh with our spouses in a way not possible anywhere but here in a temple context. Love is what God IS. God (The Godhead) is the unity of three separate beings- persons- into one, unified by love, and the purpose of that love is bringing to pass the immortality and eternal life of man. In other words, Their purpose could be termed "raising the kids" When we as a church are unified, we are part of the flesh of Christ and unified by that love. When you truly see that, I think that you will see also that guilt is very opposed to unity and love.

It is a feeling of self-condemnation- of really separating your judging self from your "sin" committing self. It takes a wonderful act of intimacy and makes you feel bad for having felt wonderful things with your sweetheart. It is divisive- not unifying. Guilt is incompatible with love and unity- it has to go, dude!

When you really get into the scriptures and the implications thereof, I think you will find there is as much magic there as you could ever want. Love is transforming in many many ways. It turns two or more into one.

One other bit of advice which I give to newly weds.

Intimacy is about unity and love- it is to become one flesh with your spouse. Sometimes that feels like a sacrament and sometime it is just fun, and often it hopefully will include a lot of passion. I am not condoning lust- but I am condoning having fun in your marriage, and after all you married who you did because they were sexually attractive to you. Celebrate that attraction! That is the mechanism which brought you together and caused you to initially fall in love! Don't let it go!

So my advice is to go forward and be ONE with your spouse which means be spiritual, be reasonable, talk a lot about a lot of things, have spiritual sex, passionate sex and anything else you both want.

The goal is unity and love- not another sacrament meeting! And that intimate unity will be what makes you both "one flesh", having experienced all sides of life together- ALL sides!

I hope this didn't sound condescending, but I am old and have advised others on this question many times.

So hopefully let the thread begin again with becoming "one flesh" and how it relates to the church