BoM Racism & Polygamy

[ttribe]

Yes and no.

Walker quoted the cherry-picked crap Ship vomited up in the "Change Your Mind Thread".

Walker is on the level.

Ship, however, is definitely a sock puppet, tho- I personally suspect it's one of Athanasius's minions scurrying after the spanking she got earlier.

I wasn't even thinking of Walker.

[Vance]

I have no idea what CARM is, I'm assuming you think I'm part of some evil anti-mormon conspiracy.

Really?

Frankly a little silly that you think I'm some satan controlled anti-mormon zombie.

I thought you said you had no idea what CARM is!

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

If you can reconcile D&C 132 with Jacob 2 then I don't see why I can't do the same thing. See how easy it is? Monogamy is evil.

Wrong. Ttribe quoted from the offical scripture, you did not even quote from an offical source. You loose again.

[Shipthebooks]

(Do you take requests? Can you hook up a Boyd K. Packer with a hint of Bruce R. McConkie?)

That sounds like the 'manogamy' Mola was referencing in post 18, which is an abomination before the Lord. People who do that will be burned as stubble at the last days along with all the little factories. (how was that? too subtle?)

[ttribe]

If you can reconcile D&C 132 with Jacob 2 then I don't see why I can't do the same thing. See how easy it is? Monogamy is evil.

Reconciling D&C 132 with Jacob 2 and OD 1 is easy...however, I've never expressed an opinion such as "Polygamy is evil"...so, you seem to be making a comparison to an opinion I don't have. How about you go ahead and answer my question though instead of dodging it like this?

[Shipthebooks]

Wrong. Ttribe quoted from the offical scripture, you did not even quote from an offical source. You loose again.

Remind me again when D&C 132 was taken out of the standard works?

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

Yes and no.

Walker quoted the cherry-picked crap Ship vomited up in the "Change Your Mind Thread".

Walker is on the level.

Ship, however, is definitely a sock puppet, tho- I personally suspect it's one of Athanasius's minions scurrying after the spanking she got earlier.

Walker is not a sock puppet. He quoted some comments from Ship's thread and started this one as to not derail the other thread. Walker is one of the good guys.

[WalkerW]

I can't click on anything from FAIR until the Q15 makes an official declaration stating that FAIR is official doctrine, then I'll consider it. I'd suggest you read Approaching Mormon Doctrine so as not to misrepresent the doctrines of the church.

I linked them because they make good arguments. I only link them if I think they do. If you don't want to read them and continue making assertions, that is your problem.

As for your link, I've read it, thanks.

[ttribe]

Remind me again when D&C 132 was taken out of the standard works?

The same time Jacob 2 and OD 1 were...now answer my question please.

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

Remind me again when D&C 132 was taken out of the standard works?

Can you not read what I wrote? I never said that it was taken out. I said that ttribe quoted from scripture and you didn't even quote from offical sources of doctrine, and that some how translates into "Remind me again when D&C 132 was taken out of the standard works?"

Were does the wonderful leep in logic come from?

[Shipthebooks]

The same time Jacob 2 and OD 1 were...now answer my question please.

Reconciling scriptures isn't part of the Lord's plan. I have a spiritual manifestation and a confirmation through the Spirit that monogamy is evil, and I won't listen to anyone who says otherwise until the Spirit tells me otherwise.

Tim - does DW have any idea how much time you spend on here? I mean seriously dude, 5800 posts and counting?

[ttribe]

Reconciling scriptures isn't part of the Lord's plan. I have a spiritual manifestation and a confirmation through the Spirit that monogamy is evil, and I won't listen to anyone who says otherwise until the Spirit tells me otherwise.

Tim - does [EDITED BY TTRIBE TO PROTECT MY WIFE] have any idea how much time you spend on here? I mean seriously dude, 5800 posts and counting?

Who are you and where do you get off using my wife's name on a public forum?

[Shipthebooks]

Who are you and where do you get off using my wife's name on a public forum?

I'm just concerned about your evil monogamic marriage. Get over it buddy, you've got enough links on your signature I could probably do your taxes.

Note: I've removed her name from my post

[Doctor Steuss]

That sounds like the 'manogamy' Mola was referencing in post 18, which is an abomination before the Lord. People who do that will be burned as stubble at the last days along with all the little factories. (how was that? too subtle?)

The burned as stubble reference was an integral addition (and I enjoyed the throwback to Mark Peterson), but I think overall it was a little too far into the Apostolic United Brethren realm though.

All-in-all, I give it a solid B+. Well played, sir. Well played.

[ttribe]

I'm just concerned about your evil monogamic marriage. Get over it buddy, you've got enough links on your signature I could probably do your taxes.

I don't care about my identity being known...if I did, I wouldn't have those links and I wouldn't use my first initial and last name as my user name...but you mentioned my wife by name. You crossed a line.

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

Who are you and where do you get off using my wife's name on a public forum?

I think I am done with this guy. He is pulling our legs.

[WalkerW]

I think that is a fair approach to FAIR. . .tee hee hee. Only because I've been told before in this forum, members say that they don't live and die by FAIR. . . so I say that it can't be taken as a valid source, if they sometimes don't even agree with it as a source.

It isn't necessarily a source. It presents a defense and argument I find valid. And you can't lump FAIR into one big ball. There are separate presentations given by separate scholars at separate conferences. The racism article, for example, is by John Tvedtnes (M.A., Linguistic; M.A., Middle Eastern Studies). One shouldn't blow it off because it is at FAIR.

[Shipthebooks]

I don't care about my identity being known...if I did, I wouldn't have those links and I wouldn't use my first initial and last name as my user name...but you mentioned my wife by name. You crossed a line.

All very public information, no harm meant by it.

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

Really, CFR that the scriptures call manogamy evil.

I am still waiting.

[Shipthebooks]

I am still waiting.

Never said that monogamy was ever declared evil in the scriptures.

'Manogamy' on the other hand is probably declared evil in the strength for youth booklet

[ttribe]

All very public information, no harm meant by it.

It's also a violation of board rules and a dodge of my questions. It's quite clear now that you have no sincere interest in discussion and that these posts about polygamy are nothing more than juvenile bomb throwing while hiding behind your anonymity like a coward. I suspect your sock puppet isn't going to last long.

[ttribe]

Never said that monogamy was ever declared evil in the scriptures.

'Manogamy' on the other hand is probably declared evil in the strength for youth booklet

Oh grow up...are you going to weasel out of answering over spelling? You know full well what MRSR is asking.

[BlueDreams]

I'm just concerned about your evil monogamic marriage. Get over it buddy, you've got enough links on your signature I could probably do your taxes.

So you have enough time to look like a creepy stalker by responding to ttribe's signature links....but not enough to actually take seriously the links posted that give legitimate quotations to prophets that directly contradict your own false conclusions. All while making fun of a religion you supposedly want to stay in.

Funny ways to show you're not a sock puppet....or at the very least a troll.

With luv,

BD

[WalkerW]

You're honestly comparing statements made by Prophets, and printed by the church in JoD, with stuff on FAIRwiki? That's my whole point, you put current apologetic opinion above statements made by prophets. You will ignore stuff because it is JoD (even though the church uses it all the time for things like manuals, including the JS manual currently used for MP/RS) and give credibility to things because they are on FAIRwiki. I won't let someone try to use an appeal to authority against me when the authority they are appealing to isn't even related to the church. FAIR has no more authority to state what doctrine is than MormonThink. I was quoting original source material. You just can't fire right back with a FAIRwiki link and expect me to even care. I could just as well link you to an anti-mormon page.

If the church wants to clear up the discrepancy between past doctrines and current ones, they should speak up. I'd be happy to read anything published by the church or any statement by a prophet you have to the contrary.

Considering that the FAIR articles provided contain quotes from the prophets and from scripture, I don't see the big hang up.

[Shipthebooks]

It's also a violation of board rules and a dodge of my questions. It's quite clear now that you have no sincere interest in discussion and that these posts about polygamy are nothing more than juvenile bomb throwing while hiding behind your anonymity like a coward. I suspect your sock puppet isn't going to last long.

Seriously, settle down, I know you IRL, if I wanted I could say a lot more about you on here, but I won't. It was up for about 4 seconds and its information that anyone could find extremely easily. The purpose of this thread is to get you to think critically about marriage and how prophets could teach that monogamy is evil. Obviously its not working.

I'm not a sock puppet, but I like the image.

BTW anonymity on a forum like this isn't cowardice, but I'm sure you'd like to know who I am.