Tanyan Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Is it my imagination or does Johnny read as if he is a Catholic Calvinist ?. .
Zakuska Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Personally, I think Johnny just likes to find sound bites he can argue with.
Hammer Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Resistance is futile...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5OTe8hUAUg Idiots abound!
Hammer Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Is it my imagination or does Johnny read as if he is a Catholic Calvinist ?. .Johnny definitely is confused. From what I have heard he has been LDS, Catholic, then nothing--then Catholic-- He just is trying so hard to get it right-- or is that-- he tries so hard to BE RIGHT-- that he isn't listening to the Lord-- just those who he chooses as teachers.Take it easy on him. He could fall apart again.
johnny Posted July 11, 2008 Posted July 11, 2008 Hammer,Definitely you are confused ... I have always been a Catholic since my infant baptism. The views expressed in this thread are consistent with the Catholic Church teachings (see below, for more go to the following link):Faith and Gracehttp://comparing-views.com/book/c11faith.htmEternal Lifehttp://comparing-views.com/book/c24eternal.htm1996 - Our justification comes from the grace of God. Grace is favor, the free and undeserved help that God gives us to respond to his call to become children of God, adoptive sons, partakers of the divine nature and of eternal life [Jn 1:12-18; 17:3; Rom 8:14-17; 2Pet 1:3-4]1697 - For it is by grace that we are saved and again it is by grace that our works can bear fruit for eternal life.2001 - The preparation of man for the reception of grace is already a work of grace. This latter is needed to arouse and sustain our collaboration in justification through faith, and in sanctification through charity. God brings to completion in us what he has begun, since he who completes his work by cooperating with our will began by working so that we might will it. Indeed we also work, but we are only collaborating with God who works, for his mercy has gone before us. It has gone before us so that we may be healed, and follows us so that once healed, we may be given life; it goes before us so that we may be called, and follows us so that we may be glorified; it goes before us so that we may live devoutly, and follows us so that we may always live with God: for without him we can do nothing1814 - Faith is the theological virtue by which we believe in God and believe all that he has said and revealed to us, and that Holy Church proposes for our belief, because he is truth itself. By faith man freely commits his entire self to God. For this reason the believer seeks to know and do God's will. "The righteous shall live by faith." Living faith "work through charity" [Rom 1:17; Gal 5:6]183 - Faith is necessary for salvation. The Lord himself affirms: "He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned" (Mk 16:16)308 - God is the first cause who operates in and through secondary causes: "For God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure" [Phil 2:13; 1Cor 12:6]2009 - The merits of our good works are gifts of the divine goodness. Grace has gone before us; now we are given what is due.... Our merits are God's gifts.736 - By this power of the Spirit, God's children can bear much fruit. He who has grafted us onto the true vine will make us bear "the fruit of the Spirit:... love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control" [Gal 5:22-23]. "We live by the Spirit"; the more we renounce ourselves, the more we "walk by the Spirit" [Gal 5:25; Mt 16:24-26]. Through the Holy Spirit we are restored to paradise, led back to the Kingdom of heaven, and adopted as children, given confidence to call God "Father" and to share in Christ's grace, called children of light and given a share in eternal glory2010 - No one can merit the initial grace of forgiveness and justification, at the beginning of conversion. Moved by the Holy Spirit and by charity, we can then merit for ourselves and for others the graces needed for our sanctification, for the increase of grace and charity, and for the attainment of eternal life1992 - Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as an expiation by his blood, to be received by faith2025 - We can have merit in God's sight only because of God's free plan to associate man with the work of his grace. Merit is to be ascribed in the first place to the grace of God, and secondly to man's collaboration. Man's merit is due to God2008 - Man's merit, moreover, itself is due to God, for his good actions proceed in Christ, from the predispositions and assistance given by the Holy Spirit2013 - All Christians in any state or walk of life are called to the fullness of Christian life and to the perfection of charity. All are called to holiness: "Be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect" [Mt 5:48]. In order to reach this perfection the faithful should use the strength dealt out to them by Christ's gift, so that... doing the will of the Father in everything, they may wholeheartedly devote themselves to the glory of God and to the service of their neighbor. Thus the holiness of the People of God will grow in fruitful abundance, as is clearly shown in the history of the Church through the lives of so many saints1821 - We can therefore hope in the glory of heaven promised by God to those who love him and do his will [Rom 8:28-30; Mt 7:21]. In every circumstance, each one of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere "to the end" [Mt 10:22] and to obtain the joy of heaven, as God's eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ
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