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Here's a good question for everyone who didn't like the Mormon church and left.. Why the hell are you still posting on a Mormon message board?

My answer was just posted on the "interesting phenomenon" thread. :P

cacheman

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Here's a good question for everyone who didn't like the Mormon church and left.. Why the hell are you still posting on a Mormon message board?

I've asked that question many times. I don't have a problem with former members coming on the board trying to find their way back; my problem is with the ones with a "bone" to pick with the Church

I've concluded that the latter group post here to make themselves feel better. Misery loves company so to speak. They are here trying hard to justify in their own minds that the decision to leave the Lord's Church was right.

Someday all will bow and recognize the Gospel of Christ whether in death or at the millenium.

Choose you this day whom you shall serve; as for me and my house we will serve the Lord.

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Think of Abraham when he was asked to sacrifice Issiac. I'll bet he didn't like that commandment.

Many are called yet few are chosen.

I'm sad you're son will not get the opportunity to hear the Gospel from his father. You made it all the way to the Temple and left the Church.

Makes me want to cry.

I'm certain the Savior has shed tears over your decision.

Stories like the one of Abraham were ones that even when I did believe in the church, i did not believe in this story. (you're trying to tell me that god who knows everyone and their inner most thoughts would tell someone to kill his son just to see if he would do it? Didn't he already know the answer to that one?)

If there is a jesus or god, they are not crying over my decision, so don't you go to the trouble.

Why the hell come here? Why not? What difference does it make to you? Even though I have left, I am not allowed to still be fascinated with the idea of religion and the different sects contained, therein?

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I've concluded that the latter group post here to make themselves feel better. Misery loves company so to speak. They are here trying hard to justify in their own minds that the decision to leave the Lord's Church was right.

I'm curious as to how you've come to this conclusion?

cacheman

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Here's a good question for everyone who didn't like the Mormon church and left.. Why the hell are you still posting on a Mormon message board?

I've asked that question many times. I don't have a problem with former members coming on the board trying to find their way back; my problem is with the ones with a "bone" to pick with the Church

I've concluded that the latter group post here to make themselves feel better. Misery loves company so to speak. They are here trying hard to justify in their own minds that the decision to leave the Lord's Church was right.

Someday all will bow and recognize the Gospel of Christ whether in death or at the millenium.

Choose you this day whom you shall serve; as for me and my house we will serve the Lord.

I have no bones to pick. I've made my bed and now I'm sleeping in it. You all are doing the same. It is nobody's place to say that another person is doing the right or wrong things. I just like the conversation that can be had here on a topic that I find to be so interesting.

I choose to serve my family first, fellow man second, and myself third. I don't think that someone who acts upon this precept will be discarded on the final day, if there is such a thing.

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Think of Abraham when he was asked to sacrifice Issiac.  I'll bet he didn't like that commandment.

Many are called yet few are chosen.

I'm sad you're son will not get the opportunity to hear the Gospel from his father.  You made it all the way to the Temple and left the Church.

Makes me want to cry.

I'm certain the Savior has shed tears over your decision.

Stories like the one of Abraham were ones that even when I did believe in the church, i did not believe in this story. (you're trying to tell me that god who knows everyone and their inner most thoughts would tell someone to kill his son just to see if he would do it? Didn't he already know the answer to that one?)

If there is a jesus or god, they are not crying over my decision, so don't you go to the trouble.

Why the hell come here? Why not? What difference does it make to you? Even though I have left, I am not allowed to still be fascinated with the idea of religion and the different sects contained, therein?

I guarantee they are crying for you. In fact I'm convinced of it.

God does not know what we will do in every circumstance, if that were so there would be no real "test" of our agency.

God did not know what Abraham would do I assure you, agency is a "God given" right.

Why would the Lord cry for those in Apostacy? The answer is in the 84th section of the Doctrine and Covenants.

Those who receive these two priesthoods (aaronic and melchezidek) and altogether turn therefrom shall not have forgiveness of sins in this world or the world to come.

Scary

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I guarantee they are crying for you. In fact I'm convinced of it.

God does not know what we will do in every circumstance, if that were so there would be no real "test" of our agency.

God did not know what Abraham would do I assure you, agency is a "God given" right.

Why would the Lord cry for those in Apostacy? The answer is in the 84th section of the Doctrine and Covenants.

Those who receive these two priesthoods (aaronic and melchezidek) and altogether turn therefrom shall not have forgiveness of sins in this world or the world to come.

Scary

o.k.

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I've asked that question many times. I don't have a problem with former members coming on the board trying to find their way back; my problem is with the ones with a "bone" to pick with the Church

They don't have a bone to pick with the church. Some people's ideas and beliefs come out as hostile because either its how their personality portrays it, or they're just bad writers. You would be surprised how many people cannot convey their true feelings and expressions in writing, substituting lax examples of their feelings of real frustration.

Most people arguing, especially on here, provided they aren't doing it for their own personal satire might actually have an interest in the church. Even if they seem rigid towards listening, their ears are still open. Most people tend to argue their points out without listening but eventually sit back and self-mediate their responses later on. For others, it may take a significant event in their life to attain clarity in their spiritual search. Either way, getting a good point across affects someone who is searching for answers, whether it happens immediately or not.

I'm assuming in your case though you would be visibily able to discern who is actually interested in learning about the church, and laying posts which are just cheap shot attacks. Just ignore it.

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I guarantee they are crying for you. In fact I'm convinced of it.

God does not know what we will do in every circumstance, if that were so there would be no real "test" of our agency.

God did not know what Abraham would do I assure you, agency is a "God given" right.

Why would the Lord cry for those in Apostacy? The answer is in the 84th section of the Doctrine and Covenants.

Those who receive these two priesthoods (aaronic and melchezidek) and altogether turn therefrom shall not have forgiveness of sins in this world or the world to come.

Scary

this would be another reason that I left. No one in the church can get the story straight as to what we can/can't do, what god can/can't do, and which scripture trumps which since there are some that are contradictions of each other.

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And this bothers you?

The Church is not rigid enough for you? :P

We have all sorts of leeway in what we can believe, and what we can and cannot do.

This has something to do with free agency. <_<

Beowulf

Posted
Here's a good question for everyone who didn't like the Mormon church and left.. Why the hell are you still posting on a Mormon message board?

I've asked that question many times. I don't have a problem with former members coming on the board trying to find their way back; my problem is with the ones with a "bone" to pick with the Church

I've concluded that the latter group post here to make themselves feel better. Misery loves company so to speak. They are here trying hard to justify in their own minds that the decision to leave the Lord's Church was right.

Someday all will bow and recognize the Gospel of Christ whether in death or at the millenium.

Choose you this day whom you shall serve; as for me and my house we will serve the Lord.

Don't flater yourself. I honestly doubt that most of us ex-Mormon posters are trying to find our way back by posting here. Why do I post here? Why not? Mormonism was a big part of my life for a while - it meant a lot to me. I have nothing against it, though I now believe it to be in error. I have several reasons that I like to come here. The main reason is mostly that I enjoy discussing religion with other Christians - particularly those who don't agree with me. Not because I like to argue, but more because I think disagreement is what makes us human. If everyone thought like you, life would suck - same goes for if everyone thought like me. My thoughts are what make me unique.

Another reason is that the LDS church intrests me. Since there is somewhat of a lack of written doctrine, some teachings are left to the interpretation of the individual, which I think is cool. I love coming here and reading the variety of beliefs expressed here, it's great.

Another reason would be that every now and then, there is always a person like yourself that will say the most extreme things that it just baffels me. No joke, when I read one of your posts about my soul being in eternal peril for leaving the church, I said - in my best Bill Cosby voice - "Mormons say da darndest things!" Of course, most LDS on here are quite realistic and down to earth with their beliefs. I always get a lot out of my dialog with charity, Bertram, and Proverbs (just to name a few!). Even though our theology is different, we still worship the same God - we just have different ideas about Him. And you know what? I don't think God minds! We will have plenty of time to get to know Him in the next life. I can't wait to see the look on your face when you see me, as well as several others who have left the LDS church yet continue to have faith in Christ, in the Kingdom of Heaven. I think you will be speechless.

If you have a problem with my presence on the board, you have my sincere apologies. If I irritate you that much, you are welcome to start a petition asking the mods to ban me. BUT, without non-Mormons and ex-Mormons, what would be the point of this board? Doesn't diversity make this board worth posting on?

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Here's a good question for everyone who didn't like the Mormon church and left.. Why the hell are you still posting on a Mormon message board?

I came on here when the late Pope John Paul II died, as there were a number of interesting discussions revolving around Catholicism at the time.

Frankly, the number of erroneous statements made on this board about Catholicism alone has been mind-boggling. Defending against them, or occasional bigotry surrounding the faith, would be a full-time job.

My understanding is that this board encourages interfaith discussion, as well as debate. Some of the posters here I know, or have known, from other discussion boards.

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