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On 5/11/2025 at 3:47 PM, Pyreaux said:

In LDS theology, "angel" can refer to different kinds of beings performing the same function (messenger). So, it's not either/or - it's both/and, depending on context.

Did Heavenly Father create any angels that are not regarded as his spirit children?

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On 5/10/2025 at 7:23 PM, InCognitus said:

So again, you are trying to apply a purpose to Doctrine and Covenants section 129 that it doesn't claim to be making.  It's simply instructions given by Joseph Smith about the types of beings that administer to the earth in our day and time.

Are these instructions (the 3 grand keys of D&C 129:4-9) true or false?

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On 5/9/2025 at 3:58 PM, teddyaware said:

The answer is simple: The ‘spirits of just men made perfect” are those who have experienced the mortal probation on earth and succeeded in overcoming the world through their faith in Christ. Just as the pre-mortal spirit children of God live in heaven with God prior to obtaining their bodies of flesh on the earth

Since they (the pre-mortal spirit children) are not resurrected beings, how are they the spirits 
of just men made perfect?  How are those spirit children waiting to enter mortality considered 
"made perfect"?
 

On 5/9/2025 at 3:58 PM, teddyaware said:

In the following Latter-Day Saint hymn, it’s plainly inferred that the Prophet Joseph Smith himself is one of the spirits of just men perfect because he’s been granted the privilege of being able to mingle freely with the exalted personages in heaven prior to his resurrection.

Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!

Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.

Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;

Death cannot conquer the hero again. (Praise to the Man)

I don't see him in heaven according to Doctrine and Covenants 138:57.

"I beheld that the faithful elders of this dispensation, when they depart from mortal life, continue 
their labors in the preaching of the gospel of repentance and redemption, through the sacrifice of 
the Only Begotten Son of God, among those who are in darkness and under the bondage of sin in the 
great world of the spirits of the dead".

Maybe the song "Praise to the Man" is an exception.

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1 hour ago, theplains said:
On 5/10/2025 at 5:23 PM, InCognitus said:

So again, you are trying to apply a purpose to Doctrine and Covenants section 129 that it doesn't claim to be making.  It's simply instructions given by Joseph Smith about the types of beings that administer to the earth in our day and time.

Are these instructions (the 3 grand keys of D&C 129:4-9) true or false?

I was talking about the context and purpose for the instructions that were given, which is always important when trying to interpret what is meant by any statement.  They are true statements when interpreted in the context for which they were given (assuming we even have all the context since they were instructions that were recorded by different people later on, unlike the revelations).

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