The Narrow Neck of Land and the "Nephites of the Caribbean Model"

[PacMan]

On 4/17/2024 at 11:39 AM, The Nehor said:

Journalism would also involve following up on those initial articles if there was anything to substantiate anything.

*crickets*

Yeah.

It is a fantasy. The experts all think it is a fantasy. The only people who believe it are those who want it to be Atlantis and you say they are being ridiculous which leaves just you who want it to be a lost Nephite city when it is too far down to be a Nephite city unless there was a rare tectonic sinking event. It would have to be 50,000 years old or more to have sunk by normal means and there is no known civilization that old that could build the buildings that are supposed to make up this “city”. If it was a sinking event that would almost certainly have knocked down any of the buildings.

And all this conjecture is based on some overhead sonar readings we don’t have and the one side sonar picture from a robotic submersible that I posted. That is it. That doesn’t show evidence of buildings. No one has taken pictures of this supposed city. No diver has seen it. No video has recorded it. Do you not realize how tenuous this whole thing is?

The problem, Nehor, is that travel to Cuba is prohibited.  As in, it's illegal.  That kind of makes follow-up difficult. 
 

As far as the photo, I understand that it was filmed on a return trip with a senior researcher of Cuba's Natural History Museum, Manuel Iturralde (who is well-published and looks legit).  But even if it was a reconstruction, I don't know how to read sonar let alone reconstruct it.  I doubt you do, either.  What I do know, is that I have found no critique of the reconstruction (if that's what it is).  And most academics are holding final judgment until there's more data.  I think that's fair--meaning, it's not so easily dismissed.

Edited May 5, 2024 by PacMan

[The Nehor]

5 hours ago, PacMan said:

The problem, Nehor, is that travel to Cuba is prohibited.  As in, it's illegal.  That kind of makes follow-up difficult. 

For Americans sort of. Most of the world can travel to Cuba.

5 hours ago, PacMan said:

As far as the photo, I understand that it was filmed on a return trip with a senior researcher of Cuba's Natural History Museum, Manuel Iturralde (who is well-published and looks legit). 

I’d like to see a credible source saying he was onboard. Credible sources say he commented on the find but I can’t find anyone I trust saying he was onboard. Sounds like the usual playing fast and loose with the facts to put him on the ship.

5 hours ago, PacMan said:

But even if it was a reconstruction, I don't know how to read sonar let alone reconstruct it.  I doubt you do, either.

People who can say it is a little weird but unlikely to match the supposed pictures being passed around.

5 hours ago, PacMan said:

  What I do know, is that I have found no critique of the reconstruction (if that's what it is).

Yeah, because it is not credible enough to bother with.

5 hours ago, PacMan said:

  And most academics are holding final judgment until there's more data.  I think that's fair--meaning, it's not so easily dismissed.

Academics are always withholding final judgment if more data shows up. Are you expecting them to say there is nothing to it even if credible evidence is found. It isn’t being dismissed as absolutely impossible. That is not suggesting any of it is at all credible. This kind of vague reading of not outright dismissing something is often read as the whole thing still being controversial and plausible. It is a standard tactic of pseudoarchaeologists.

[The Nehor]

Have another debunking:

https://badarchaeology.wordpress.com/2012/10/28/an-underwater-city-west-of-cuba/