Deseret News: Jonathan Rauch, "a self-described atheistic Jewish gay man" comments on dangers arising from weakened Christianity

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Perspective: Jonathan Rauch underscores ‘civic theology’ of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints at the University of Virginia

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Jonathan Rauch says the ‘civic theology’ of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a contemporary model of a healthier and mutually supportive relationship between constitutional democracy and a self-sustaining Christian faith

Wow.

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One of America’s leading public intellectuals, a self-described atheistic Jewish gay man, is neither eager to see the flight from Christian churches, nor is he buying an all-too-convenient “society is to blame” explanation for this phenomenon. In a tour de force of intellectual courage and candor, senior Brookings Institution fellow Jonathan Rauch delivered three stunning lectures late last month at the University of Virginia’s Institute for Advanced Studies in Culture. Rauch warned that the deterioration of American Christianity threatens America’s pluralistic democracy. He also warned that our democracy is threatened by the reactive response of some American Christian thought leaders who blame our liberal democracy for the demise of their own church communities.

Gotta say, I did not expect this from Jonathan Rauch.

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Rauch argued that, unfortunately, contemporary Christianity in America (largely speaking here about evangelicalism) has become too “thin” and too “sharp”, i.e., too secularized, and not because of what pluralistic democracy has done to religion, but because of religion’s self-inflicted wounds of commercialization and politicization that deviate from its missions of helping to form community and providing for moral formation. 

Fair points, these.

Way too much stuff has become "politicized" these days.  

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As a counter to these trends, Rauch proposes alignment — in contrast to alliance — between democracy and religion in our constitutional order. Religionists should acknowledge, said Rauch, that pluralistic democracy brings vitally important social and material goods to society that religion can’t provide by itself.

I agree with this.  This is central to why I dislike and have reservations and concerns about "Christian Nationalism."

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That said, Rauch also suggested that secularists should recognize how the moral formation and the meaning, upon which our democratic institutions rely, come in large part from religion, and that the state can’t provide meaningful substitutes in this realm.  Although democratic and religious institutions may find themselves from time to time in tension, they should seek the well-being of one another.  

Yes.  Yes. 

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Rauch therefore encouraged Christians in their public engagement to draw more self-consciously from the teachings and example of Jesus Christ to fear not, to imitate Jesus Christ more closely, and to forgive others.

This meshes quite well with Pres. Nelson's recent exhortation that we become "Peacemakers."

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And he encouraged liberals and progressives to be more welcoming of religion. “We should even, perhaps, cherish religion,” said Rauch. “And when we disagree with a faith tradition,” he continued, “we should do so respectfully and give it a second or even third hearing; and when we criticize faith, we should do so in a spirit of humility, recognizing that the great faith traditions have been around a lot longer than liberalism.”

Boy, that sure would be nice to see.  

Here's the part where Rauch discusses the Church:

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Rauch used the bulk of his final lecture to shine a generous light upon what he calls the “civic theology” of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints because he sees within the Latter-day Saint tradition a contemporary replicable model of a healthier and mutually supportive relationship between constitutional democracy and a self-sustaining Christian faith.

Drawing from Latter-day Saint scripture on moral agency and several recent speeches by President Dallin H. Oaks, first counselor in the First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Rauch presented the church as a contemporary successful example of a morally demanding, countercultural Christian tradition whose practice and doctrine embrace an ethic of patience, negotiation and mutual accommodation consistent with the Founders’ vision for our republican form of government.

I quite agree with this.  I think this is why the Restoration had to originate in America.

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And although some observers might see the Latter-day Saint example of accommodation as a tactical and pragmatic response by a minority religion, Rauch methodically uncovers deep theological underpinnings for the church’s pluralistic teachings, such as President Oaks’ admonition that “We should not expect or seek total dominance for our own positions.” He does so by providing a very close reading of President Oaks’ recent speeches on constitutionalism and religious liberty to the worldwide church, to the University of Virginia and to a Notre Dame Law School religious liberty summit in Rome.

Rauch describes President Oaks’ argument as “a sophisticated case for an alignment between God’s moral constitution and Madison’s political one. He sees patience, negotiation and compromise not as means to ends, to be jettisoned if the results seem unsatisfying, but as social and spiritual ends unto themselves.”

Good stuff, this.  

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Combining President Oaks’ teachings with other Latter-day Saint scripture and teaching on moral agency, Rauch extrapolates the following civic commandment: “If I impose my will politically to limit your agency, I have deprived you of a pathway toward godliness; and so, indeed, I have sinned.” Thus, Rauch finds within The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints “something really quite impressive: a fully formed, coherent, and scriptural foundation for Madisonian pluralism. It is the polar antithesis of Christian nationalism and Christian dominionism. … It provides an account of Christian citizenship which is not defensive, fearful, or self-isolating, but which embraces the messy, frustrating process of negotiation as bringing Americans closer to God.”

I think "If I impose my will politically to limit your agency" is too broad an extrapolation, as essentially all legislation "limits" the "agency" of citizens.  Otherwise, though, I really like this stuff.

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Rauch went on to note how this Latter-day Saint approach “also rejects the radical version of progressivism which would impose secular law on all aspects of civic life, regardless of religious practices and objections. Instead, it supports a balanced, negotiated approach in which the two sides make room for each other. In that respect, it provides for accountability to both God and the Constitution.”

Good stuff.

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Rauch received formal feedback during the lectures from three University of Virginia professors — sociologist James Davison Hunter, political theorist Danielle Charette and religious historian Kathleen Flake. They raised questions about whether Rauch’s critique of contemporary Evangelical Christianity had been painted in too broad of strokes and whether his plea for traditional Christian traditions to embrace pluralism in ways analogous to the doctrines of the Latter-day Saints would be persuasive. 

Fair questions, these.

I would also be curious to see if Rauch has any thoughts about whether the legalization of same-sex marriage (something he has championed for years) has contributed to the disintegration/weakening of Christianity in America.  It sure has created a lot of antagonism and hard feelings, but maybe those things needed to happen for us to progress as a nation.

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But to a person, commentators and audience alike found the project important, timely and provocative. Hunter further noted that Rauch’s achievement “is all the more remarkable by virtue of the fact that he is an outsider to the traditions he is writing on and speaking about.”

I do appreciate it when "outsider{s}" give the Church a fair hearing, and/or give it credit when due.

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Too often, the news emerging from our colleges and universities is about illiberalism and cancel culture. But by this observer’s witness, even the potentially volatile contemporary challenges at the intersection of religion and democracy can still be probed and debated with humility, intellectual curiosity, critical inquiry and open exchange. When Rauch’s original thoughts on these issues finally emerge as a published book — which they will — our national discourse will be elevated by his keen observation and unique perspective.

Paul S. Edwards is the director of the Wheatley Institute at Brigham Young University.

Great article, IMO.

Any thoughts?

-Smac

[Tacenda]

 

I'd like the same from the Christian toward the "LGBTQ+. Replace "faith" with "LGBTQ+" and "great faith traditions" with "LGBTQ+".

“we should do so respectfully and give it a second or even third hearing; and when we criticize faith, we should do so in a spirit of humility, recognizing that the great faith traditions have been around a lot longer than liberalism.”

[Tacenda]

I read the comments about the article and c/p'd what I agree with but also believe religions do very good things too.

Quote #1: Humanism has a significantly better track record.

Weren't there religions in this country banning blacks from leadership roles as recently as 45 years ago?

 

Quote #2: The answer to a well-functioning society hitting on eight cylinders is education, not religion. Starting at the preschool level children must be taught two primary skills. Those are critical thinking skills and a love of reading. That should be the primary focus of their education all of their lives. The problem with humanity today is a lack of critical thought skills and the ever-increasing levels of illiteracy. That lack of those skills leaves far too many unable to obtain, digest, and act on empirical data. Instead, they are easily bemused, befuddled, and led astray like lemmings rushing off a cliff. That is why political parties, religions, and snake oil sales organizations are able to monetize their stupidity...

 

Quote #3: Brother, I do not disagree with you.

 

However, the history of Blacks and the Priesthood. The history of attacks, and conversion electroshock therapy at BYU against the LBGTQ Community has a historical effect on the so-called truths being taught.

 

In 2015 the blatant attack against the children of married gay couples was not in the least a Chirstian principle. And that horrid policy was reversed as thousands left the Church to support their own families that included the LBGTQ community.

 

People study history. And sometimes history can remove people from their religion. Good or bad?

 

There are many good people who truly do follow the teachings of Jesus, a very Liberal historical character. To those people I commend them.

 

Quote #4: I find it increasingly hard to "cherish" religion when it has so often been used to foment division and disunity. The problem with religionists is that they believe they have a unique pipeline to Deity and therefore absolute certainty that they are in the right on any given issue. They tend to see issues in terms of black and white but never shades of grey.

Edited October 9, 2023 by Tacenda

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I suspect there is a bit of a disconnect between the overall intent of these lectures and the Deseret News coverage. I don’t think they are misrepresenting anything directly but are focused on how it relates to the church because they are Deseret News and that is what many of their readers want to know which might mean they are missing the overall point.

Plus I have read some of his stuff and the way Deseret News worded it made him sound centrist which he is very much not.

Here is the speaker with the first tweet covering the whole of the series and the next three covering the three individual days:

He is complimentary towards the Church’s relation to government but in the article they kind of miss the main point that he is arguing that the Religious Right’s current marriage to secular political forces is poisonous and antidemocratic. He is saying those churches and church leaders should be more like the Mormons in this specific respect. The DN article came across like he is equally chastising everyone.

I always meant to read more of his books. I should do that.