Historical Backtracking (Sooner Or Later You Will Disagree)

[Uncle Dale]

I'm going to repeat a method I encountered while teaching

in China -- with a few obvious modifications.

 

I will name a few, fairly well-known, names from history,

and folks can try and guess their approximate birth years.

 

In a subsequent posting I'll provide answers from Wikipedia

or some other popular source (but be on your toes, I may

purposely insert a bogus date to see if you're awake).

 

As I go backwards in time, sooner or later, we will come

across a person whose lifespan is not precisely known,

or is a matter of controversy.

 

(Don't worry -- I won't include Samuel the Lamanite, Alma Sr.,

Teancum, Lamoni, or any other exclusively Nephite items)

 

...

 

Here's the first set -- I doubt anybody will respond; so I'll

quickly move along until we reach our first "person of interest"

whose lifespan (or very existence) may a point of debate:

 

 

01. Oliver Cowdery

02. Lucy Mack Smith

03. George Washington

04. King Henry VIII

 

See if you can correctly guess the year of birth, (within 10 or 20 years)

(Another set coming later today)

 

UD

[teddyaware]

I'm going to repeat a method I encountered while teaching

in China -- with a few obvious modifications.

 

I will name a few, fairly well-known, names from history,

and folks can try and guess their approximate birth years.

 

In a subsequent posting I'll provide answers from Wikipedia

or some other popular source (but be on your toes, I may

purposely insert a bogus date to see if you're awake).

 

As I go backwards in time, sooner or later, we will come

across a person whose lifespan is not precisely known,

or is a matter of controversy.

 

(Don't worry -- I won't include Samuel the Lamanite, Alma Sr.,

Teancum, Lamoni, or any other exclusively Nephite items)

 

...

 

Here's the first set -- I doubt anybody will respond; so I'll

quickly move along until we reach our first "person of interest"

whose lifespan (or very existence) may a point of debate:

 

 

01. Oliver Cowdery

02. Lucy Mack Smith

03. George Washington

04. King Henry VIII

 

See if you can correctly guess the year of birth, (within 10 or 20 years)

(Another set coming later today)

 

UD

 

1805, 1775, 1729, 1495

Edited February 17, 2015 by teddyaware

[Uncle Dale]

1805, 1775, 1729, 1495

 

Give that fellow a Cupi Doll...

(tho' the wiki says 1491 on the latter guy - and 1731/32 on George)

 

 

Moving right along:

 

05. Heber C. Kimball

06. Daniel Boone

07. Hamlet, Prince of Denmark

08. Julius Caesar

 

 

UD

 

(Cowdery is generally stated to have been a year younger than

his cousin, Joe -- so 1806 sounds like a better fit for Ollie)

Edited February 17, 2015 by Uncle Dale

[teddyaware]

Give that fellow a Cupi Doll...

(tho' the wiki says 1491 on the latter guy - and 1731/32 on George)

 

 

Moving right along:

 

05. Heber C. Kimball

06. Daniel Boone

07. Hamlet, Prince of Denmark

08. Julius Caesar

 

 

UD

 

(Cowdery is generally stated to have been a year younger than

his cousin, Joe -- so 1806 sounds like a better fit for Ollie)

 

1810, 1715, none, 90 BC

[toon]

My guesses:

 

Cowdery:  1804

Lucy Mack Smith:  1776

Washington:  1725

H VIII:  1492

[toon]

Further guesses.

 

Kimball:  1810

Boone:  1680

Hamlet:  ----

Caesar:  96 BCE

[Uncle Dale]

Further guesses.

 

Kimball:  1810

Boone:  1680

Hamlet:  ----

Caesar:  96 BCE

 

 

That's a bit early for the Cumberland Gapper -- he would

have been fighting off the Indians in his greybeard days...

 

Heber seems to date to 1801 -- and Dan'l Boone to 1734

I'm guessing 1550 on Hamlet -- If only because the spartan

furnishing of Elsenore in the stage directions betoken a period

prior to Kronborg's elaborate renovations, which commenced

a couple of decades later (allowing Hamlet to die beforehand).

http://wikimapia.org/1156705/Kronborg-Castle#/photo/404836

The scant references to England appear to be from about the

reign of James the First, but I may be wrong about that.

That leaves old Julius, seems to have first seen the light in

100 B.C.E. -- But then, again, I never understood the Julian

and Gregorian calendars, let alone what happened in 1582,

or what old style and new style dating meant, but I doubt

any of that could make the Emperor ten years younger.

But now we enter the eras of uncertainty. Maybe Caesar is

as fictional as Hamlet. Who can I trust, to give me the truth

about such things?

And, if he was real, and did not fib about his birthday, how

can we be certain that 90 isn't the trustworthy date after all.

From here on out the seas be rough, mates -- and the maps

show naught but sea serpents and dragons...

UD

[Uncle Dale]

Serpents, dragon and krakens ahead...

 

09. Grand Master Jacques de Molay
10. Roland, Nephew of Charlemagne
11. Fatima bint Muhammad (blest be his name)
12. Hypatia of Alexandria

 

UD

[Uncle Dale]

 

09. Grand Master Jacques de Molay

10. Roland, Nephew of Charlemagne

11. Fatima bint Muhammad (blest be his name)

12. Hypatia of Alexandria

 

 

OK, I'll do the heavy lifting

 

09. April 24, 1847

10. if he (fictional?) was 28 at the Battle of Roncevaux, then 750 C. E. might do

11. 569 C. E.

12. 335 C. E.

 

Moving right along to the "hard ones"

 

13. Herod the Great

14. Pythagoras

15. Bathsheba wife of Uriah

16. Tutankhamun

 

UD

(ten extra points to whomever spots my error, first)

Edited February 18, 2015 by Uncle Dale

[Uncle Dale]

hmmmmm...

 

Interest seems to be lagging. I'll have to advise the new

Activities Director to try out touch football, instead.

 

But, since I have them left here, cluttering up my notepad,

the final four old-time worthies are:

 

17. Deborah, Judge of Israel

18. Yu Huang (the Jade Emperor)

19. Methuselah

20. Lilith

 

UD

[strappinglad]

13. Herod - 72 BC

14. Pythagorus - 570 BC

15. Bathsheba - 1020 BC

16 Tut - 1340 BC

17. Deborah - 1200 BC

18. Yu Huang - lived with the dinosaurs

19. Methuselah - 2600 BC

20. Lilith - 4100 BC to 1300 AD

Now one for you Uncle Dale - Jesus the Christ ?

Edited March 1, 2015 by strappinglad

[Uncle Dale]

13. Herod - 72 BC14. Pythagorus - 570 BC15. Bathsheba - 1020 BC16 Tut - 1340 BC17. Deborah - 1200 BC18. Yu Huang - lived with the dinosaurs19. Methuselah - 2600 BC20. Lilith - 4100 BC to 1300 ADNow one for you Uncle Dale - Jesus the Christ ?

.

Born of Mary, c. 6 c.e., perhaps in Pella, Transjordan

Died c. 33 c. e., probably outside of Jerusalem, Judea.

May have been known as Jesus son of Mary during

his lifetime -- a name generally designating a child

with an unknown father or a father who died before

the child was born.

Probably was never called Jesus the Messiah during

his lifetime, but may have emulated or demonstrated

some elements of the priestly (non-royal) messiahship.

Publicly proclaimed Christ by some of the disciples

who outlived him, c. 60 c.e.

UD

Edited March 1, 2015 by Uncle Dale