Mormons, Mandela And The Race And Priesthood Statement

[BCSpace]

The answer, I believe, is to found in the definition of the word 'disavow.'

 

 

Precisely.  When the Church uses that word, it is not necessarily saying anything about the potential truth or untruth of what they are disavowing.

[Alan]

Word of Wisdom. Not the revelation itself, but the further definition and enforcement of it in later times. And that's all I'm going to say about it.

 

Here, here!

[Alan]

The modern "interpretation" of tithing.

Notwithstanding conference talks and articles in the Ensign, tithing was and is supposed to be one tenth of your surplus.

 

However, I don't see the church clearing this up anytime soon, if ever. If they did some ex-mo's would probably attempt to sue the church for all the extra tithing they paid..... and they would probably win.

[cinepro]

The modern "interpretation" of tithing.

Notwithstanding conference talks and articles in the Ensign, tithing was and is supposed to be one tenth of your surplus.

 

However, I don't see the church clearing this up anytime soon, if ever. If they did some ex-mo's would probably attempt to sue the church for all the extra tithing they paid..... and they would probably win.

 

Redefining tithing in such a way could drastically cut the Church's income, which is already getting stretched pretty thin, so I would bet against you on this one.

 

But I don't think you can sue to get back charitable contributions.  If you could, "some ex-mo's" would have already done it.

[Tiki]

The modern "interpretation" of tithing.

Notwithstanding conference talks and articles in the Ensign, tithing was and is supposed to be one tenth of your surplus.

That's not correct. Read D&C 119 including its header.

1 Verily, thus saith the Lord, I require all their surplus property to be put into the hands of the bishop of my church in Zion,

2 For the building of mine house, and for the laying of the foundation of Zion and for the priesthood, and for the debts of the Presidency of my Church.

3 And this shall be the beginning of the tithing of my people.

4 And after that, those who have thus been tithed shall pay one-tenth of all their interest annually; and this shall be a standing law unto them forever, for my holy priesthood, saith the Lord.

Now read verse 4 again.

And after that, read verse 4 again.

And after that, look at verse 4 and read it again.

And after that, do it again, and after that read, "And after that."

Edited July 25, 2014 by Tiki

[thatjimguy]

Double post.

Edited July 25, 2014 by thatjimguy

[thatjimguy]

The synonym for Interest is profit. Profit comes after expenses. So there is a lot of possible avenues here.

Of course the spirit tells you if you are good to go or not with no man to chime in between you.

I am also aware that the church manuals state that it is meant to mean income...however I would guess that is not official doctrine and interest is.

Edited July 25, 2014 by thatjimguy

[Tiki]

Well, I've heard of self-employed individuals who claim they own no tithing because they're always operating at a loss.

So if you want to treat tithing as a tax to avoid, then I feel sorry for such persons.

There is always something someone can purchase as an expense to offset one's income.

"Let's upgrade to 4G or buy that new pickup truck! Then we won't have to paying tithing!"

Edited July 25, 2014 by Tiki

[thatjimguy]

Well, I've heard of self-employed individuals who claim they own no tithing because they're always operating at a loss.

So if you want to treat tithing as a tax to avoid, then I feel sorry for such persons.

There is always something someone can purchase as an expense to offset one's income.

"Let's upgrade to 4G or buy that new pickup truck! Then we won't have to paying tithing!"

 

True. And people do that all the time to avoid claiming a profit on taxes. However, again, the spirit, not us is the judge. If what they say is justified, the spirit will let them know. If they are being cheap and trying to put one over...then of course not.