california boy Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Tell me all you know about what is essential for salvation while describing the various degrees of salvation that are attainable, and then I'll see if our Lord has told us more than you know.Tell me how knowing anything about various kingdoms is essential to my salvation. And if that is so important, tell me why not a single bit of information is recorded in the Book of Mormon, noting n the Old Testament and only the names in the New testament. Did God not think it was important for those people's salvation? Are you claiming that only those that know about the three degrees of glory will be saved?
california boy Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 I agree with the statement you bolded. My issue was with this statement: " What teachings should I be paying attention to, that I don't already do? " Are you saying you have made no bones about your contention that homosexual relationships are just as moral and acceptable as heterosexual marriage? I can go mine a few posts if you wish, but is that necessary, since you and I-and you and others-have gone the rounds on this multiple times? Since we are on the issue of my individual sins, I might point out that yes, I have made no bones about having a boyfriend and having homosexual relations. But I have also made no bones about not wanting to spend eternity with a woman in the Celestial Kingdom having eternal increase. I have never stated that homosexual relations was not a sin, I have only stated that it was a sin I am willing to accept the judgement of God for committing. God has a place for every one of His children. I will just not be in your kingdom when I die. Sexual purity is only required for the Celestial Kingdom. Now if you can tell me that I can spend eternity with the love of my life and be together for eternity with my boyfriend in the Celestial Kingdom, then I will start paying attention to that commandment as well. Much less is required for those not headed to the Celestial Kingdom.
california boy Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Tell me how knowing anything about various kingdoms is essential to my salvation. And if that is so important, tell me why not a single bit of information is recorded in the Book of Mormon, nothing In the Old Testament and only the names in the New Testament. Did God not think it was important for those people's salvation? Are you claiming that only those that know about the three degrees of glory will be saved?
Ahab Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Tell me how knowing anything about various kingdoms is essential to my salvation. And if that is so important, tell me why not a single bit of information is recorded in the Book of Mormon, noting n the Old Testament and only the names in the New testament. Did God not think it was important for those people's salvation? Are you claiming that only those that know about the three degrees of glory will be saved?I think an essential element of understanding what you need to be saved is to understand what salvation is in the first place. Like, saved from what? Saved in what sense? Just a basic understanding so that you and other people understand what salvation is, and the various degrees that are involved in salvation. Like salvation from death, and the various degrees in which a person can be said to be dead. Death generally refers to a separation, and there are various things we can be separated from, either totally separated or separated to only a limited degree.The issue of salvation, and what salvation is, is fairly complex don't cha know.
Ahab Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Yes, I think that's fair. But, whether or not the Book of Mormon is scripture is not dependent upon its historicity. If that were the defining feature of scripture very little in anyone's canon would count.You don't seem to understand what history is, and I recommend that you use a few books to gain an understanding of what scripture is too.
Anteojito Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Yes, I think that's fair. But, whether or not the Book of Mormon is scripture is not dependent upon its historicity. If that were the defining feature of scripture very little in anyone's canon would count. I do think that the BOM is dependant upon its historicity to be scripture. I think that it is possible to allow for the stretching of the truth in some of the stories (i.e whether or not Ammon hacked off arms or not is not key to his story) but I think the basic story line has to have happened for the BOM to be classified as scripture. I personally don't think that the BOM is true and therefore not scripture yet I will say that there are some good life lessons in it.
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