Saving Lives

[EllenMaksoud]

Just as an aside, and of course without knowing you, I prefer the word "virtuous" to "celibate". Celibate sounds so blunt and dry and lonely. Virtuous carries the connotation that even though your life has been by any standard, a rough road, you have been true and faithful to the Lord and kept yourself chaste. 

It would seem that you have discovered something that even a lot of us LDS don't really realize-that the atonement goes so much further than Christ taking on our sins. He takes on our sorrows and our pains as well, if we will just give them to him. 

And your Facebook posts are interesting. I liked the one about the connections between the galaxies, gives me something else to think about out. 

Lol, thank you. I composed that very picture 10 years ago, and someone finally stole it and put it on FB. Oh Well.

[EllenMaksoud]

EllenMaksoud:

 

You sound like a very caring and compassionate person. Don't let negative comments change that. As I said in another thread. Sex change operations should be undertaken in only the most extreme of circumstances, and that helping people accept their own sex is of the highest priority, at least to me as Social Worker.

 

I see no reason to be kicked out of this thread, suicide prevention is of utmost importance, let alone off this MB.

There are two views that are totally opposite.  One is Dr Zuker in Ontario, and the other is  Dr. Spack. I had the Taliban/Dr Zuker version and was forced, on threat of death. Dr Spack's approach was to stop puberty for a while until the other issues could be worked out. And yes, the suicide rate tells the story.

[EllenMaksoud]

I've said what I had to say. I hope that in time, people will retain the knowledge imparted but forget it is I who said it. The focus of my life is to please Heavenly Father by doing his will and helping others. It is surprising to me that this thread was not shut down almost immediately. Thank you for your patience and kindness.

[savedbygrace]

You have blown me away, you have got real guts. Thank you for being so trusting, telling you story cannot have been easy. God bless you Gwen, always know that he loves you and is the wind beneath your wings.

[EllenMaksoud]

You have blown me away, you have got real guts. Thank you for being so trusting, telling you story cannot have been easy. God bless you Gwen, always know that he loves you and is the wind beneath your wings.

At the Ward level people are absolutely accepting, kind, loving and faithful to Heavenly Father. That there is issue with the GA is sad, really sad. The focus for me is to be as pleasing to Heavenly Father as posible. Yes, no Mini Skirts, Racoon makeup, towering heels, and exhibitionist conduct for this woman. I'm actually very boring to be around, and no one seems to know or care.

 

As to the Temple, and Patriotic Blessing, yes I would like to have that, but apparently Heavenly Father feels I do not need that to serve him. With God on my side, who can be against me?  The only thing I ask is that people stop talking about it with me. It is like twisting the knife.

 

Edited March 15, 2014 by EllenMaksoud

[MelodyMP3]

I just found this article online, which may be informative...hope it helps a little...definitely hope it doesn't hurt anyone! It's my prayer that  the power of God could be seen in this situation...somehow! It's a puzzling situation for me...this being my first time every hearing of a real case scenario...thinking that God has a perfectly good reason for everything, and works all things out for good to those who love Him...this has made me ponder things I've never thought about before! I thank you, Gwen/Ellen for sharing this deeply personal matter. I wouldn't have contemplated it so hard, or tried to understand it otherwise. 

 Question: "What does the Bible say about hermaphrodites?"

Answer:Babies that are born with both male and female sexual organs, or characteristics of both organs, are called hermaphrodites or intersex. A child who is in an intersexual state is classified in one of three categories: 1) true hermaphrodite – an infant born with both ovaries and testicles and has both male and female sex organs. 2) female pseudohermaphrodite – a genetic female with male external sex organs. 3) male pseudohermaphrodite – a genetic male with external sex organs that fail to develop properly, resulting in female or male/female physical characteristics.

In times past, doctors would perform surgeries without first testing the infant to find out its true sex, and the child would sometimes grow up very obviously a man, with female genitalia. Now, specialists can perform an ultrasound, blood test, chromosome analysis, and even do exploratory surgery to find out the baby's true sex. The treatment is still controversial, however.

Some believe that surgery and/or hormonal therapy should begin within the first 15 months of life, and others believe these things should be put off until the child is old enough to make his or her own decision about it. There are pros and cons for each side. Either way, any family with an intersexual infant should begin counseling, as should the child when he or she is old enough.

When babies are developing in the womb, they all begin with sex organs that look female. If the baby is male, he begins to produce testosterone, and if the hormone reaches the tissues correctly, the external genitals become a scrotum and penis. Chromosomal or sex hormone abnormalities can produce an infant in an intersexual state. It can also be caused by a condition called congenital adrenal hyperplasia, which is a disease the blocks the baby's metabolism. It is not as uncommon as we might think; about 1 in every 2,000 newborns is born in an intersexual state.

Babies are not born with physical disorders to punish their parents in any way. Although God created the earth perfectly, it soon brought destruction upon itself with the onset of human sin (Romans 5:12). Before the Flood in Genesis chapter 7 that wiped out almost all living things on the earth, people had the potential to live for several hundred years.

After the Flood, human life spans grew progressively shorter, indicating a change in the environment which resulted in damage to the human genetic structure. This also explains why incest was necessary for the population of the earth in Genesis, but was forbidden later in the laws of Leviticus (18:6-18). Now, thousands of years later as sin continues to permeate the world, the human race has been bombarded with every kind of sickness, disease, disorder and birth defect we can imagine.

It is very possible for a child born with both sex organs to grow up to have a healthy view of sexuality and successful relationships. From early on, the child should be taught how valuable, loved and accepted he is by his family and also by God. He or she is not a victim of divine judgment, but God has a plan for each one of us that will bring Him glory, as we can learn from a man who was healed by Jesus Christ:

“'Teacher,' his disciples asked him, 'why was this man born blind? Was it a result of his own sins or those of his parents?' 'It was not because of his sins or his parents' sins,' Jesus answered. 'He was born blind so the power of God could be seen in him'” (John 9:2-3).

 

 

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/hermaphrodites.html#ixzz2wAXcbaE4

[Tacenda]

I just found this article online, which may be informative...hope it helps a little...definitely hope it doesn't hurt anyone! It's my prayer that the power of God could be seen in this situation...somehow! It's a puzzling situation for me...this being my first time every hearing of a real case scenario...thinking that God has a perfectly good reason for everything, and works all things out for good to those who love Him...this has made me ponder things I've never thought about before! I thank you, Gwen/Ellen for sharing this deeply personal matter. I wouldn't have contemplated it so hard, or tried to understand it otherwise.

Question: "What does the Bible say about hermaphrodites?"

Answer:Babies that are born with both male and female sexual organs, or characteristics of both organs, are called hermaphrodites or intersex. A child who is in an intersexual state is classified in one of three categories: 1) true hermaphrodite – an infant born with both ovaries and testicles and has both male and female sex organs. 2) female pseudohermaphrodite – a genetic female with male external sex organs. 3) male pseudohermaphrodite – a genetic male with external sex organs that fail to develop properly, resulting in female or male/female physical characteristics.

In times past, doctors would perform surgeries without first testing the infant to find out its true sex, and the child would sometimes grow up very obviously a man, with female genitalia. Now, specialists can perform an ultrasound, blood test, chromosome analysis, and even do exploratory surgery to find out the baby's true sex. The treatment is still controversial, however.

Some believe that surgery and/or hormonal therapy should begin within the first 15 months of life, and others believe these things should be put off until the child is old enough to make his or her own decision about it. There are pros and cons for each side. Either way, any family with an intersexual infant should begin counseling, as should the child when he or she is old enough.

When babies are developing in the womb, they all begin with sex organs that look female. If the baby is male, he begins to produce testosterone, and if the hormone reaches the tissues correctly, the external genitals become a scrotum and penis. Chromosomal or sex hormone abnormalities can produce an infant in an intersexual state. It can also be caused by a condition called congenital adrenal hyperplasia, which is a disease the blocks the baby's metabolism. It is not as uncommon as we might think; about 1 in every 2,000 newborns is born in an intersexual state.

Babies are not born with physical disorders to punish their parents in any way. Although God created the earth perfectly, it soon brought destruction upon itself with the onset of human sin (Romans 5:12). Before the Flood in Genesis chapter 7 that wiped out almost all living things on the earth, people had the potential to live for several hundred years.

After the Flood, human life spans grew progressively shorter, indicating a change in the environment which resulted in damage to the human genetic structure. This also explains why incest was necessary for the population of the earth in Genesis, but was forbidden later in the laws of Leviticus (18:6-18). Now, thousands of years later as sin continues to permeate the world, the human race has been bombarded with every kind of sickness, disease, disorder and birth defect we can imagine.

It is very possible for a child born with both sex organs to grow up to have a healthy view of sexuality and successful relationships. From early on, the child should be taught how valuable, loved and accepted he is by his family and also by God. He or she is not a victim of divine judgment, but God has a plan for each one of us that will bring Him glory, as we can learn from a man who was healed by Jesus Christ:

“'Teacher,' his disciples asked him, 'why was this man born blind? Was it a result of his own sins or those of his parents?' 'It was not because of his sins or his parents' sins,' Jesus answered. 'He was born blind so the power of God could be seen in him'” (John 9:2-3).

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/hermaphrodites.html#ixzz2wAXcbaE4

Another excellent post! I hope you stick around!!

[Calm]

FYI, Ellen/Gwen invites anyone who wants to catch up with her to do so on Facebook.

[Tacenda]

FYI, Ellen/Gwen invites anyone who wants to catch up with her to do so on Facebook.

I forgot Gwen's last name. 

[Calm]

I don't usually do Facebook, feels cluttered to me, just don't like it so I think this is Gwen's site as I haven't been there before and can't remember if she linked to it.  Perhaps you can confirm it for me?

 

https://www.facebook.com/gwenbchr?fref=browse_search

Edited March 27, 2014 by calmoriah

[knowone]

 

 

who would want to 'get nasty' towards you for these things you are going through?  certainly not me.  we are all in the same boat trying to get back to our Father & we all have difficulties.  it looks like you are on the right path.

[EllenMaksoud]

who would want to 'get nasty' towards you for these things you are going through? certainly not me. we are all in the same boat trying to get back to our Father & we all have difficulties. it looks like you are on the right path.

[EllenMaksoud]

who would want to 'get nasty' towards you for these things you are going through? certainly not me. we are all in the same boat trying to get back to our Father & we all have difficulties. it looks like you are on the right path.

it will not be better ever

[EllenMaksoud]

I just found this article online, which may be informative...hope it helps a little...definitely hope it doesn't hurt anyone! It's my prayer that  the power of God could be seen in this situation...somehow! It's a puzzling situation for me...this being my first time every hearing of a real case scenario...thinking that God has a perfectly good reason for everything, and works all things out for good to those who love Him...this has made me ponder things I've never thought about before! I thank you, Gwen/Ellen for sharing this deeply personal matter. I wouldn't have contemplated it so hard, or tried to understand it otherwise. 

 Question: "What does the Bible say about hermaphrodites?"

Answer:Babies that are born with both male and female sexual organs, or characteristics of both organs, are called hermaphrodites or intersex. A child who is in an intersexual state is classified in one of three categories: 1) true hermaphrodite – an infant born with both ovaries and testicles and has both male and female sex organs. 2) female pseudohermaphrodite – a genetic female with male external sex organs. 3) male pseudohermaphrodite – a genetic male with external sex organs that fail to develop properly, resulting in female or male/female physical characteristics.

In times past, doctors would perform surgeries without first testing the infant to find out its true sex, and the child would sometimes grow up very obviously a man, with female genitalia. Now, specialists can perform an ultrasound, blood test, chromosome analysis, and even do exploratory surgery to find out the baby's true sex. The treatment is still controversial, however.

Some believe that surgery and/or hormonal therapy should begin within the first 15 months of life, and others believe these things should be put off until the child is old enough to make his or her own decision about it. There are pros and cons for each side. Either way, any family with an intersexual infant should begin counseling, as should the child when he or she is old enough.

When babies are developing in the womb, they all begin with sex organs that look female. If the baby is male, he begins to produce testosterone, and if the hormone reaches the tissues correctly, the external genitals become a scrotum and penis. Chromosomal or sex hormone abnormalities can produce an infant in an intersexual state. It can also be caused by a condition called congenital adrenal hyperplasia, which is a disease the blocks the baby's metabolism. It is not as uncommon as we might think; about 1 in every 2,000 newborns is born in an intersexual state.

Babies are not born with physical disorders to punish their parents in any way. Although God created the earth perfectly, it soon brought destruction upon itself with the onset of human sin (Romans 5:12). Before the Flood in Genesis chapter 7 that wiped out almost all living things on the earth, people had the potential to live for several hundred years.

After the Flood, human life spans grew progressively shorter, indicating a change in the environment which resulted in damage to the human genetic structure. This also explains why incest was necessary for the population of the earth in Genesis, but was forbidden later in the laws of Leviticus (18:6-18). Now, thousands of years later as sin continues to permeate the world, the human race has been bombarded with every kind of sickness, disease, disorder and birth defect we can imagine.

It is very possible for a child born with both sex organs to grow up to have a healthy view of sexuality and successful relationships. From early on, the child should be taught how valuable, loved and accepted he is by his family and also by God. He or she is not a victim of divine judgment, but God has a plan for each one of us that will bring Him glory, as we can learn from a man who was healed by Jesus Christ:

“'Teacher,' his disciples asked him, 'why was this man born blind? Was it a result of his own sins or those of his parents?' 'It was not because of his sins or his parents' sins,' Jesus answered. 'He was born blind so the power of God could be seen in him'” (John 9:2-3).

 

 

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/hermaphrodites.html#ixzz2wAXcbaE4

Just now saw this. Wow, and thank you.

[EllenMaksoud]

I forgot Gwen's last name. 

Gwen Boucher