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Nathair,

 

You like Alastair MacDonald?The Sheep and Stag Remain is that one about Scotland's children who fled to foreign shores. He makes me a little proud to be one of those children in many of his songs, especially when he sings of McKenzie's men and McGilliivray's men, I can't remember which song. He has made me wonder about my great uncles and fathers.

 

Rory McKenzie, aka 3DOP

The one of his I currently have is his version of Tam Lin and Fair Janet.  He did a good job on it and I love that stuff, so I will likely buy more.  

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The one of his I currently have is his version of Tam Lin and Fair Janet.  He did a good job on it and I love that stuff, so I will likely buy more.  

You can't possibly listen to that with out a Mug of Ale in your hand.  Make mine Root Beer. :)

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The one of his I currently have is his version of Tam Lin and Fair Janet.  He did a good job on it and I love that stuff, so I will likely buy more.  

Tam Lin. I've heard two. Very different. Steeleye Span is okay and Maddy Prior is the greatest. But Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny really cooks. I like it best so far. I'll look for the MacDonald version but the song seems to ask for female vocals.

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I am not and can not be Haram Music Police. I can however sense how the music I listen to affects my spirit.

 

I used to sail a lot. There were terms in sailing that so readily translate to modern life. It is tempting to get really metaphorical, but I will repent of that. :)Close hauled describes sailing as close to the wind as one can and still catch the wind. Once in a while a sailor will sail too close to the wind and the sail stops working, and if the person at the helm (steering wheel) does not make a change in direction quickly, the boat wind up In Irons. The the crew must either back wind the sail to push the boat around or simply wait for the fates to turn the boat. :)

 

I am not going to belabor this illustration but some people get as close to real sin as they can, without really, um sinning. If they go too far, they wind up In Irons to sin. Sometimes remorse and repentance is enough, and sometimes it destroys a life.

 

I have been drinking some weak coffee at times to relieve what I think are Gall Bladder Disease symptoms. It seems to work and I will be talking to my Doctor. Will I continue with Coffee? I hope not.

 

I used to listen to some pretty licentious music when traveling. It made the miles pass. Now days, music like EFY, the MTC, and other Mormon music keeps me alert and the original music is not appealing.

 

I wasn't looking for an imposition of your will. Nor would I want to impose mine. I want to be able to understand why I think some music is evil. Its okay if you can't help, after all I can't articulate it either. But I think you sense the same thing as I do---that some music is unsuitable for Christian listening and as I would put it, harmful to the soul. I love your sailing analogies by the way.

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So, just asking here, no condemnation really. Listening to the things that some of you do, how do you think that influences your closeness to Heavenly Father?

Not everything, especially music, is about God. I listen to the music I do because of the message and sound. One of my favorite songs of all time is "Wild International" by One Day As A Lion:

 

They say that in war That truth Be the first casualty So I dig in selector I the resurrector Fly my sh*t Sever your neck Wider than ever With my tongue Dipped in funk arsenic Burn this illusion This lie This straight arson sh*t Your arsenal stripped Power ain't full jackets And clips It's my ability To define phenomenon Raw Crenshaw '84 Boogie down before L.A. When the war break off Where you be take off Stand in full face off With the M1 millimeter Let the rhythm Of the chamber hit 'em Let the rich play Catch with 'em Better yet make 'em eat 'Em and sh*t 'em Till they So full of holes That they drown In their own I'm like a nail stuck In the wrist Of they Christmas Don't need radio To leave their family A witness

Muhammad And Christ would life Would lay Your body down To a tune So wild international In the desert Full of bullets Let your body rot With my chrome With my verse With my body rock

In this era Where DJs behave Be paid to be slaves We raid airwaves To be sane And what's raining From the station Cash fascination Like living dead Fed agents Distract us fast From a disaster's Wrath for sure Air war was flooded Like the 9th ward On the AM, on the AM Turn and face them Hatred and mayhem Slay them, dangerous I take razor steps It's the swing From the bling To the bang on the left It's the murderous return Boom back full strap Your six That got clipped You can't clap back With minimal lift And criminal flow I'm killing them soft And billing them for Everything stole And once again I'm that nail In the wrist Of they Christmas Watch me Make their family A witness

Muhammad And Christ would life Would lay Your body down To a tune So wild international In the desert Full of bullets Let your body rot With my chrome With my verse With my body rock

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I wasn't looking for an imposition of your will. Nor would I want to impose mine. I want to be able to understand why I think some music is evil. Its okay if you can't help, after all I can't articulate it either. But I think you sense the same thing as I do---that some music is unsuitable for Christian listening and as I would put it, harmful to the soul. I love your sailing analogies by the way.

I won't go all metaphsyical on you OK.  When I thought I was completely lost and on the way to Hell, I listened to everything; anything to dull my senses. Then I realized that the lyrics of lots of these singers were soulful, laments. Taylor Swift's were at the time fairly immature. Avril Lavigne complains about the things that every young girl has happen to them.  In retrospect I think the lyrics and beat of lots of this music hides the message.

 

Since I came to the Church, my spirit (if you believe in those things) senses things that are not good. As I said before my tastes are much more more um sedate now, and it "feels" like there is some sort of block against listening to the old music.  I could and have violated that block but the music is not enjoyable now.

 

Interestingly, conservative Muslims believe anything from all music except drum music is Haram (Forbidden) to string music only is Haram.  Depending upon who it is, Persian Muslims, Shia, will use strings and all that.  Conservative Saudi Sunni Muslims generally use only drums. Also, for most Muslims, Belly Dancing is only done in front of a Woman's husband, alone, and it is a fertility rite.  To be clear, I have no education in Middle Eastern culture aside from the fact that I was a Muslim. Thought you would enjoy that side note.

 

There are things in the Mormon church that happen that I have never seen anywhere else. I know this may sound like one of those Roswell things, but what has happened to me in the church is the center of my faith, and without the church I would not be alive full stop.

 

In the Bible, in Ps 42:1 To the chief Musician, Maschil, for the sons of Korah. As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God.  Describes how I feel about Heavenly Father now. I will never be anything in the church, but I know gratitude and it makes me tremble to think that I could somehow offend Heavenly Father.

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The new Alter Bridge album, Fortress, is so freaking fantastic.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oncpFijyJnE

 

This probably has one of the best choruses I've ever heard in a rock song before. "Don't close your eyes. Something beautiful is still alive."

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For popular music, I like what I grew up with. But the last ten years or longer I have been reaching back to the generation of my parents and grandparents. Johnny Mercer, Jo Stafford, The Andrews Sisters, early and late Frank, Ella Fitzgerald, Dean Martin, Bobby Darin. Sammy's Birth of the Blues. Wow.

 

When the rock and roll generation turned its back on this sound, they lost something that is continuous with it.

 

You can find later versions of it, but this is my favorite video of Sammy, young, athletic, and very smooth of voice. 1954. I can get a little bored with Woodstock and what followed. Only a little. I still listen. But if I could be there live, I think I could listen (and watch) Sammy nurse, rehearse, and give out the news about that old Southland all day long.

 

 

Okay...so y'all don't know what's good? Here we go baby. If you can't spell "cool" don't blame me, because here is COOL: Birth of the Bluz...again:

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oh man...you got to hear Frankie and Louis together. If they don't come up on the click, or whatever you call it...refresh please and you can click. How this is not universally hip, I could not know.

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My faves:

Jefferson Airplane

The Ardbirds

The Who

Bruce Springstein

Black Sabbath

Johnny Cash

 

These are utterly awesome.

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Me either. Just not sure what the appeal is to those guys. Oh well. Never like Jimi Hendrix much either.

 

 

I like Jimi, but not the Stones.

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Tam Lin. I've heard two. Very different. Steeleye Span is okay and Maddy Prior is the greatest. But Fairport Convention with Sandy Denny really cooks. I like it best so far. I'll look for the MacDonald version but the song seems to ask for female vocals.

 

 

Yes, yes, and yes!

I agree on the female vocals, but you really ought to hear Mike Waterson's version. It is different, but very compelling.

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These are utterly awesome.

 

Yeah..that's a pretty good list...(from Valentinus) What would Jimi Hendrix have done? Has anybody approached him? Exceeded him? Most artists fade. Maybe he had already peaked. But I have to wonder. I am so sorry he was taken. As much as I love him, Clapton peaked I think. Anyway...like sometimesaints song from Louis...what a wonderful world...and heaven is better....may we all meet there somehow. 

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volga...I have to confess...to my shame...forgive me...I like the Rolling Stones. The opening to Monkey Man and Can't You Hear Me Knockin':

 

Forget the lyrics...I Can't Hear what you're Sayin':

 

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the first thirty seconds...recommending those Stones...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNY8eYmzdH4

 

I apologize for whatever the video/picture thing is supposed to mean up above. It looks to start almost as bad as a common car or dish detergent commercial in the United States (my home). Sorry...anyway...thankfully, it gets no worse. 

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This one will always remind me of Jayvee baseball practice...

 

I don't guess Tommy James could have known where the radio went...the other "song" from that year was the banjo stuff from the movie Deliverance. I can still see old Coach_____,

 

Well g'nite.

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It truly hit me today how eclectic my tastes in music really are. My iPod went from Josh Groban to really heavy, heavy, heavy metal song and I almost squirted water out of my nose from laughing so hard at the absurdity of it.

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volga...I have to confess...to my shame...forgive me...I like the Rolling Stones. The opening to Monkey Man and Can't You Hear Me Knockin':

 

Forget the lyrics...I Can't Hear what you're Sayin':

 

 

I like some songs, it is just in their entirety they have little appeal for me.

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I like some songs, it is just in their entirety they have little appeal for me.

volgadon...no worries. I am embarrased to have to confess my bad taste.

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volgadon...no worries. I am embarrased to have to confess my bad taste.

There's no such thing as a bad taste in music. In your eyes, you have the best taste in the world, right?

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volgadon...no worries. I am embarrased to have to confess my bad taste.

 

 

It is not bad taste, merely a difference in taste. Besides my brother is very much a fan, even saw them in concert.

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My favourite is Frank Turner.  I got to see him finally when he played here a few weeks ago.  I love music... but seeing gigs live is a million times more exciting.

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So, how is it that one can get from Led Zeplin to California Dreamer? I did not know who Led Zeplin was but someone suggested that "Stairway to Heaven" was good, so I had a listen. Then I noticed "California Dreaming" and it felt like I was home again. When everyone was doing Rock in the 60's, I was doing Folk. I would not discover real head banger Rock until after my divorce and wanted a brain wipe.

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Ah, Zeppelin. Haven't listened to them in a while. "Ramble On" is my favorite.

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