Daniel2 Posted May 31, 2013 Posted May 31, 2013 And that is exactly why I started this thread.Unfortunately, the perception of many that I speak with is that many within the LDS community have already failed to rise to the defense of three or four groups on the poem's list (and, in fact, has used similar justifications to discriminate against at least one group), so the sentiment kinda seems like too little, too late. Daniel2
thesometimesaint Posted June 1, 2013 Posted June 1, 2013 Here is an interesting article.http://www.aeonmagazine.com/world-views/mark-rowlands-the-right-to-believe/
Kenngo1969 Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I hear all the time that the LDS are as anti as anyone when they preach that they have all truth and the other churches don't.Shawn McRaney says it when callers call in and say he shouldn't pick on the LDS. He said JS started it when he said all the Christian sects were an abomination to God.Well, actually, JS didn't say that. The Lord Jesus Christ said it. Joseph simply repeated what he was told. Granted, the other Christian churches can argue that Joseph was making it up, but the same thing happened when Christ in mortality said the scribes and Pharisees were hypocrites. He wasn't very kind to do so (or so they might argue), but Christ had authority to say it. To argue with Joseph is to potentially argue with Christ Himself. Good luck with that, I say. I mean absolutely no offense to anyone, but neither Joseph Smith nor Jesus Christ said what you're attributing to them. Joseph Smith said that the personage who addressed him said that the creeds of other churches were an abomination in his sight. Perhaps I'm merely **** [OK, overly concerned about the precise use of language I apologize for running afoul of the censors! ], and you see that as a distinction without a difference, but it's pretty significant in my book.
Tacenda Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I mean absolutely no offense to anyone, but neither Joseph Smith nor Jesus Christ said what you're attributing to them. Joseph Smith said that the personage who addressed him said that the creeds of other churches were an abomination in his sight. Perhaps I'm merely **** [OK, overly concerned about the precise use of language I apologize for running afoul of the censors! ], and you see that as a distinction without a difference, but it's pretty significant in my book.Even worse since "creed" means statement of belief. Saying someone's belief is abominable is harsh too. So I don't get your post. Not saying the missionaries are wrong just showing how Shawn McRaney's show was only doing the same thing, disagreeing with the LDS belief.
cdowis Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 Here is an interesting article.http://www.aeonmagaz...ght-to-believe/Now, the issue is when a belief that is not based on religion, but on a philosophy, should also be subject to scrutiny. I believe that the President is a great leader, I believe that women have a right to control their own body (abortion), that the state has a right to take a position of in loco parentis (give condoms to students in school without parental consent).
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