Vatican Painting From 1494 Cleaned, Discovery Undeneath Said To Depict American Indians On Horses Before Conquistadors.

[mfbukowski]

Of course there were no photographers on CC's voyage, but it was the age of master illustrators. Explorers used illustrators and map makers to document their discoveries. Is it possible the artist had access to illustrations?

I did not mention detailed drawings.

Only the person making the drawings, if they existed, would have any idea what NA facial characteristics were. His contemporary artists could only extrapolate from what they saw or heard from him. After seeing even detailed drawings, they would probably revert to their own studies of anatomy. I have not been able to determine if a pictorial log was kept of their voyages.

This is getting rather strange.

Either you see a conflict in these two statements or you don't.

It seems to me that you if you changed the names on those posts, they would sound as if you were debating this with another member of the board- but they are all your words- complete posts in context.

It's ok- I guess I am not understanding your point, but at this point I am not sure if it matters much. If they had illustrations or not, they were quite far off- and saw the Indians in a European context.

[ERayR]

This is getting rather strange.

Either you see a conflict in these two statements or you don't.

It seems to me that you if you changed the names on those posts, they would sound as if you were debating this with another member of the board- but they are all your words- complete posts in context.

It's ok- I guess I am not understanding your point, but at this point I am not sure if it matters much. If they had illustrations or not, they were quite far off- and saw the Indians in a European context.

I kind of like the cell phone idea.

[WmLaw]

I've examined the painting closely.

I'm pretty sure those are tapirs.

[ERayR]

I've examined the painting closely.

I'm pretty sure those are tapirs.

You forgot to put on your glasses and you know you can't see a thing without them.

[Bernard Gui]

Not a bad pun at all...if there can be such a thing.

Why, thank you! Now we know the origins of Columbia Pictures.