Damien the Leper Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Sorry, I intruded.Crap! That's not how I wanted it to sound. Sincerest apologies.
EllenMaksoud Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Crap! That's not how I wanted it to sound. Sincerest apologies.Apology accepted happily. I have pneumonia and pluresy right now and am a bit off. I hope tomorrow will be brighter.
Damien the Leper Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Apology accepted happily. I have pneumonia and pluresy right now and am a bit off. I hope tomorrow will be brighter. Yuck! I'll keep ya in prayers for a fast recovery.
juliann Posted December 29, 2012 Posted December 29, 2012 Actively taking steps to do yourself in would be attempted suicide. Thinking about suicide, but not taking steps to actually do it, is suicidal ideation. Some people are not happy with their lives, and wish they could die or kill themselves, but for whatever reasons don't go forward with it.It's possible that Paul suffered from suicidal ideation, but I can't think of any way to verify that without more information. Maybe the thorn in his side was something entirely different. We just don't know.This is a complete misunderstanding of early Christianity. They expected to be killed by their enemies and they expected the second coming. People in that situation who face what is coming head on without blubbering are usually considered courageous not suicidal. Taking up the cross of Christ has a slightly different meaning when everyone around you is being picked off, often in a horrible manner. And the thorn is often thought to be something to do with his eyes since he pokes fun at his own writing when he was obviously well educated...and seemed to need others to do the writing for him. But who knows. 2
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