Lamanite Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Original Glamour ArticleExcerpts: September 11, 2009 "I Link to comment
Palerider Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Original Glamour ArticleExcerpts:Well this months Glamour came and guess what? Here is her new contribution:I wanted to bold and italicize some of the exerpt but I thought I would just leave it open to discussion.Thoughts?Big UP!LamaniteGive it time Honey, some consequences are latent for quite awhile.........the regrets will come........ oh yeah, and why would someone subscribe to "GLAMOUR" anyway.....? Link to comment
cinepro Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 TMI?I'm less disappointed in her decision to have sex before she got married (being the libertarian I am and the adult that she is) than I am in her decision to write an article about it. Link to comment
Lamanite Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 Give it time Honey, some consequences are latent for quite awhile.........the regrets will come........ oh yeah, and why would someone subscribe to "GLAMOUR" anyway.....?You don't subscribe to Glamour? How else would I find out what cute peep-toe wedges are in fashion this Spring? That's my key to the best Mother's Day presents...LOL!Nothing beats a pair of Ferragamo flats in the Spring and Summer!Big UP!Lamanite Link to comment
Lamanite Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 TMI?I'm less disappointed in her decision to have sex before she got married (being the libertarian I am and the adult that she is) than I am in her decision to write an article about it.Agreed. Her contributions a filled with justifications and thinking errors. It also seems as if she has little to know grasp of the Doctrines of the Mormon Faith.Big UP!Lamanite Link to comment
Jason Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Wasn't there a whole thread on this article last year? Link to comment
Lamanite Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 Maybe there was a thread but it was interesting to see the follow up. I think from her original article we could see the writing on the wall. Big up!LamaniteSent from my iPhizzle Link to comment
SilverKnight Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 I think this young woman is slowly discovering that nothing horrible happens to you if you have unmarried sex.The costs of fornication are spiritual only (in my opinion). Link to comment
Obiwan Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Anyone else like me who "saw that coming" given all that she said previously on the issue, especially the inappropriate intimacy?Unfortunate. Especially her not "regretting" doing it. People that are truly good people, people trying to be better may sin and falter, but to not "regret" it, not feel sorrow for your sins is something I simply can't understand. My Ex-wife is like this. Living her wonderful perfect utopia life with no consequences and no desire and effort to be and do better. I and everything good simply doesn't "exist" anymore, only her current so-called reality and desires do. Link to comment
cinepro Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 On an unrelated note, our EQ lesson last week focused on the basics of giving blessings. When the teacher was reviewing whether or not it was ever OK to use an oil other than olive oil (no), I thought to suggest that we should use extra virgin olive oil if the person isn't married. Link to comment
Lamanite Posted March 9, 2011 Author Share Posted March 9, 2011 I think this young woman is slowly discovering that nothing horrible happens to you if you have unmarried sex.The costs of fornication are spiritual only (in my opinion).If you engage in premarital sex and it is your belief that this is wrong, there will be remorse and spiritual suffering. The only way to alleviate such suffering is to repent or change your belief system. I think she is going with the latter.On another note: I think this is a classic example of the proverbial "frog boiling in the pot." I don't know of any normal relatively worthy person who one day chooses to, lets say, go out and start shooting heroin. However, I know plenty of Moms and Dads who get their first prescription for pain pills and slowly begin abusing them. Little by little and over an extended period of time, we may find that person on 200 south in SLC with a needle hanging out of their arm. Serious sin begins with minor infractions.Text book case of compromising values little by little and then serious sin and justification.Big UP!Lamanite Link to comment
SilverKnight Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 If you engage in premarital sex and it is your belief that this is wrong, there will be remorse and spiritual suffering. The only way to alleviate such suffering is to repent or change your belief system. I think she is going with the latter.Agree.On another note: I think this is a classic example of the proverbial "frog boiling in the pot." I don't know of any normal relatively worthy person who one day chooses to, lets say, go out and start shooting heroin. However, I know plenty of Moms and Dads who get their first prescription for pain pills and slowly begin abusing them. Little by little and over an extended period of time, we may find that person on 200 south in SLC with a needle hanging out of their arm. Serious sin begins with minor infractions.I would say that experimenting fornication is not a 'gateway' drug to some horrible dead end of sexual degeneracy. Rather, having premarital sex with a romantic companion perhaps most likely puts you on the path to serial monogamy - not some sort of sexual heroin addict dying in a lonely alley. Link to comment
Jason Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Anyone else like me who "saw that coming" given all that she said previously on the issue, especially the inappropriate intimacy?Yes.Unfortunate. Especially her not "regretting" doing it.Give her another 15-20 years, and then ask her if she has any regret. Link to comment
SilverKnight Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Give her another 15-20 years, and then ask her if she has any regret.What would happen in 15-20 years that would cause her to regret her decision? Link to comment
Nomad Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 So she's got three notches on her bedpost already, huh? And this is after what ... a year or less of sexual activity? Is she "shopping around" for the perfect mate, or just "making up for lost time"?At her current promiscuity pace, she'll have had about 100 different partners in the same amount of time my wife and I have been faithfully married to one another. I hope she writes another Glamour article on the occasion of her one hundredth encounter. No doubt it will also conclude with "I'm the same Elna I've always been." Link to comment
cinepro Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 On another note: I think this is a classic example of the proverbial "frog boiling in the pot." Well, some single adult LDS have been having the temperature turned up for a long time! Link to comment
Jason Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 What would happen in 15-20 years that would cause her to regret her decision?Life. Link to comment
SilverKnight Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Life.How compelling.'Life' makes you regret having unwed sex. Link to comment
Jason Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 How compelling.'Life' makes you regret having unwed sex.Scoff if you wish, but yes, it actually does. Link to comment
Nomad Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Life.Or sterility caused by an STD.Or the crippling of her ability to commit herself to a rewarding marriage, and therefore a lifetime of loneliness.This list could go on and on. Link to comment
cinepro Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Or sterility caused by an STD.Or the crippling of her ability to commit herself to a rewarding marriage, and therefore a lifetime of loneliness.While I'm glad I waited until I was married, what reason is there to assume that someone who isn't a virgin has a "crippled ability to commit themselves to a rewarding marriage"?And do people who have had sex outside of marriage have less of an ability than someone who was previously married and thus isn't a virgin but only had sex inside of their marriage to someone else?This list could go on and on.I'm guessing the length of the list would only be bounded by your imagination. Link to comment
bluebell Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 The costs of fornication are spiritual only (in my opinion).Sometimes.When someone get's an STD, or has a baby out of wedlock, the consequences become not only very temporal, but also begin to affect people you love very much in negative ways that you can't take back.If anyone really believes that the costs are only spiritual, they're probably not mature enough to be having sex, regardless of their religion. Link to comment
SilverKnight Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Sometimes.When someone get's an STD, or has a baby out of wedlock, the consequences become not only very temporal, but also begin to affect people you love very much in negative ways that you can't take back.For teens and irresponsible people - I agree.For consenting, mature, responsible adults, the 'material' costs of unwed sex are really nonexistent. Link to comment
caudicus Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Nothing new. More LDS women than not have admitted to premarital sex, from recent times as well as in the past. Link to comment
bluebell Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 For teens and irresponsible people - I agree.For consenting, mature, responsible adults, the 'material' costs of unwed sex are really nonexistent.This is not true.I personally know two people who are very responsible adults, and who are now dealing with the consquences of having sex as an adult out of wedlock.Even responsible people mess up sometimes-it's the mind frame that the costs are 'really nonexistent' that contributes to the problem. Link to comment
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