Anakin7 Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Had a brief enjoyable encounter with a new Member of The Episcopal Church [Faith] who claims that they are the inheritors of Jesus Christs True Church [Catholicism] that became corrupt. What say/know ye ?. In His Debt/Grace Anakin7 LDS JEDI KNIGHT
3DOP Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Had a brief enjoyable encounter with a new Member of The Episcopal Church [Faith] who claims that they are the inheritors of Jesus Christs True Church [Catholicism] that became corrupt. What say/know ye ?. In His Debt/Grace Anakin7 LDS JEDI KNIGHTMost Anglican/Episcopalians who are conservative enough to claim that "they are inheritors of Christ's True Church" would not go so far as to claim to be the ONLY true Church, but a legitimate branch on the tree. It would be refreshing to meet or hear from an Episcopalian today who even uses such language. 3DOP
Stargazer Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 Most Anglican/Episcopalians who are conservative enough to claim that "they are inheritors of Christ's True Church" would not go so far as to claim to be the ONLY true Church, but a legitimate branch on the tree. It would be refreshing to meet or hear from an Episcopalian today who even uses such language. 3DOPAs far as I have investigated the subject, there is a tendency among many Anglicans towards bending back to Catholicism. This Anglo-Catholic movement seems to see Anglicanism more as a kind of English Catholicism (i.e. a Catholicism sans Pope) than as Protestantism, per se.Given that the genesis of Anglicanism was Henry VIII's misplaced search for a male primogeniture heir, and the resultant "lawful murder" of some of his several wives on trumped up charges, not to mention Sir/Saint Thomas More, how ludicrous could it be to consider the Anglican church somehow more virtuous than the Roman Catholic church of the time?
Blossom Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 I would dare say that we who belong to a certain faith and path believe it is right. And it takes a strong argument to sway us.Well, I was a Baptist ... so it does happen.Blessings,Blossom
LeSellers Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 [The] Anglo-Catholic movement seems to see Anglicanism more as a kind of English Catholicism (i.e. a Catholicism sans Pope) than as Protestantism, per se.Anglicanism was always "a kind of English Catholicism sans Pope". Given that the genesis of Anglicanism was Henry VIII's misplaced search for a male primogeniture heir ...This is not quite accurate. It ignores the history of Christianity prior to Constantine's (and other, later, emperors') establishment of the Roman Church with its bishop as the first among equals. England was the first country to accept Christianity as a national religion when her king converted (and "strongly suggested" his subjects do the same), long before France (the "eldest daughter of the [Roman] Church") did so, but Christian England, unlike Catholic France, did not do so as "national Catholics", they were "national Christians", if my wording here makes sense. The Anglican Church (in other places called "Episcopal", the church of the Bishops
Alan Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 LeSellers,Interesting comments. I would agree with you regarding the status of the early church Bishops, although their status as SP's would not prevent the apostacy. However, your views regarding the Church of England are the main subject of my comments. The Church of England was not a national church before the English reformation, it was wholly and completely part of the Roman church and the Pope exercised full authority over it. Britain ("England" did not exist at the time) was a christian nation prior to the arrival of the Roman missionaries, and the Celtic church (founded by John according to tradition) had no affiliation with Rome. The arrival of the English (Angles and Saxons) brought heathen peoples into the country and it was these people St Augustine came to convert. The Roman and Celtic churches co-existed for some time, though in different parts of the country, until the Synod of Whitby (just up the road from where I live). This was ostensibly about the calculation of the date of Easter (the two churches had different traditions in this regard) but was really all about who was in charge. The representatives of Rome won the day and the Celtic church went home with it's tail between it's legs and eventually died out. The RC church was fully established in the whole of Britain until the two reformations (establishing the Church of England and the Church of Scotland [presbyterianism]) in the two kingdoms. Whereas Scotland embraced a different version of christianity courtesy of John Knox, The Church of England was simply the catholic church with the Pope removed and replaced with the King. Over the following years many changes occured as the CofE went it's own way, and especially as it came under pressure from the Puritans.
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