mrmendoza Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Hey Mike,Though I agree with you that there is a great evidence for God in his creations. I am puzzled about how the LDS view is superior reasoning, on the bold statement, emphasis mine.As I have looked at it, the LDS view seems to believe that evil is eternally necessary. I find that pretty hard to digest.Another point, would be how it relates to the concept of the pre-existence. If humanity is actually those that choose God over Satan, and coming here is all part of the process.... what does this imply for those child rapists, etc. that are spiritually supposed to be God's chosen ones.?Respectfully,MudcatThe way I was brought up as a Baptist, there was no "reasoning" at all! At least none that I could understand! I was tought that Jesus and His Father, God were one and the same. That if you didn't believe in Christ, and ask Him to "save" you, you would burn in hell forever! That once you were "saved" you would be guarenteed a place in heaven, no matter how awful you lived your life or whatever heinous crimes you might commit, although it was supposed that once you were saved you would be so thankful to God that you probable would not want to do bad things anymore!I was taught that even those who never heard of the name Jesus, would still burn in hell for not calling on him for salvation, and that somehow this was right in Gods justice, and anyway who were we to question God or his seemingly arbritrary justice! Even that little girl, if she was old enough to be accountable, would be burning in hell right now and forever!Even my good old Southern Baptist grandmother, who pretty much tought me all these things, once was telling me that she wondered why God sent the devil down here in the first place! But she then answered her own question, the same way my preacher and everyone else whom I thought might have answers did, "Well, I guess that's just something we weren't suppossed to know! You just have to believe."!On the contrary,LDS doctrine taught that God did indeed have a reason for sending us here. We weren't "created" just to satisfy the arbritrary and capricious longings of an obviously lonely God who demands that we, whom He created must love Him or else face eternal torture!Lds doctrine teaches that God, as our Father, sent us here to learn how to become like him. Or if we fail to achieve that exaulted status, we will know why on that judgement day!As for the rapist and others like them, God gave them the same chance as he did all of us, to prove the kind of people that they really were! You see in the pre-exsistence we saw only God, and his glory, or the devil, who tried to persuede us that his plan was best. We all thought Gods plan was best and so we agreed to come here and try it.We had no idea how difficult it was going to be! Nor did we know ourselves well enough to understand just how depraved we could become!As for the statis of the aforementioned rapist Alma 14:11 answers that question somewhat;"...behold the Lord...doth suffer that they may do this thing... according to the hardness of their hearts, that the judgements which he shall exercise upon them in his wrath may be just; and the blood of the innocent may stand as a witness against them, yea and cry mightily against them at the last day."You see, God dosn't punish us for what we might do, but for what we acctually do! He also dosn't prevent us from doing evil, and then punish us as if we had done them, even though he knows what we're about to do, because he wants US to know what we've done, so that WE can truly know what we've done and know that our punishment is just!Of course that doesn't help the little girl! And it's because of that, that I sometimes feel such despair, and I fight to keep my hope alive!As far as the necessity of evil being hard to digest, well, what can I say? That's just the way it seem to be! Link to comment
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