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Out of curiousity, does anyone on this board know of a mormon physicist who deals with relativity? Meaning, one who is more than a high school physics teacher.

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Out of curiousity, does anyone on this board know of a mormon physicist who deals with relativity? Meaning, one who is more than a high school physics teacher.

I knew several when I was going to the Y and majoring in physics, but that was years ago, but they were really sharp, especially Prof. Hansen and Hill.

Prof. Hill would often remind that that once we felt that we were beginning to understand quantum physics, then we need to understand that we were definitely on the wrong path. The more we understood it, the less we understood it. Time wasn't linear at the quantum level, that it even went backwards. He just simply said that it was black magic.

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Mudcat,

I've appreciated the question and the respectful manner in which you have managed this thread. It says a lot about your character.

Are you thinking of "Flatland"? It's a great book with interesting concepts.

Thanks, I couldn't remember the title....but I guess it draws a very good paralell to what I feel is the nature of God. Christ is sort of the point where God intersects our existence. We couldn't comprehend the creator...but Christ is comprehensable.

The end result, as far as the afterlife goes, is that I do not know what comes next. It is on the other side of the event horizon we call death. And I am pretty sure that, despite what most claim, no one knows. One can have faith, hope, belief, etc... but I like the words of Paul in this case.

In the end, the greatest of these is charity. Why? Because it applies to the here and now. It is part of this reality. And until it comes time to work within the next reality, whatever it may be or if it even is, I am busy enough with doing good, seeking the beautiful, and pursuing the true here.

Because I came to a point where I either had to sacrifice my integrity to stay and pretend to be something that I was not, or be true. I chose to be true. And I do not regret that choice. In short, in the LDS worldview it is tantamount to heresy to say, "I/we don't know". Yet after a long period of reflection this is what I came to.

Well...based upon my previous posts...you could probably gather I look at all this through a different set of eyes. However, I understand what you are saying...I think.

I abandoned the Baptist church at 16 and was agnostic for a little over a decade. I learned quite a bit about what I percieve God to be and man to be. Obiously, I've come to a little different understanding of things..but thats what it is...my understanding of things. I left the faith I was raised in for similar reasons. I mean..what is absolute? Can you fit God into religion? of a book? etc...

I think some people (like I was) cant find what truth is....without 1st dismissing all preconceptions of what you've been told the truth is. Clean the slate so to speak...so when I found what was true..to me..I knew it and owned it for myself.

I've really enjoyed reading your posts and thanks for being kind.

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Better than that lame Vow of Poverty......obnoxious.

I think I must've taken one of those in the pre-mortal existence. What was I thinking?!? :P

HiJolly

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Thanks, I couldn't remember the title....but I guess it draws a very good paralell to what I feel is the nature of God. Christ is sort of the point where God intersects our existence. We couldn't comprehend the creator...but Christ is comprehensable.

I hope you'll pardon my jumping in here...

Yes! I really enjoyed "Flatland" also. Like my introduction to philosophy, it was mind-expanding. Wonderful.

I abandoned the Baptist church at 16 and was agnostic for a little over a decade. I learned quite a bit about what I percieve God to be and man to be. Obiously, I've come to a little different understanding of things..but thats what it is...my understanding of things. I left the faith I was raised in for similar reasons. I mean..what is absolute? Can you fit God into religion? of a book? etc...

No, I don't think so. BUT you *can* find a religion that supports, endorses and after a fashion embodies Godliness. As a practical way of living. I find that in Mormonism. Not only that, but it also allows me to learn what I will, from wherever I will, and justifies my findings of truth as a being a part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, regardless of the Church's official views. I love that.

I think some people (like I was) cant find what truth is....without 1st dismissing all preconceptions of what you've been told the truth is. Clean the slate so to speak...so when I found what was true..to me..I knew it and owned it for myself.

Buddhists call that 'killing the buddha'. It's really REALLY important. I agree with your thought on this 100%!

HiJolly

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No, I don't think so. BUT you *can* find a religion that supports, endorses and after a fashion embodies Godliness. As a practical way of living. I find that in Mormonism. Not only that, but it also allows me to learn what I will, from wherever I will, and justifies my findings of truth as a being a part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, regardless of the Church's official views. I love that.

HiJolly

Oh, sorry HiJolly...guess I only gave you a piece of the puzzle. After that decade of Agnositicism...I was born again...joined a Baptist church (though I wouldn't call me a Baptist) just a Christian. Thanks for the suggestion...but I know that I am currently where the lord would have me serve.

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