Hugh Nibley's "bird Island"

[maklelan]

This is a highly amusing article from a 1977 issue of Dialogue. I could only get URL's for each page, so you have to open them one at a time for each page. The article basically pokes fun at the lengths to which people will go in apologetics to try to connect dots. Enjoy.

http://content.lib.utah.edu/u?/dialogue,1229

http://content.lib.utah.edu/u?/dialogue,1230

http://content.lib.utah.edu/u?/dialogue,1231

http://content.lib.utah.edu/u?/dialogue,1232

[mocnarf]

Oh, so true... That's funny.....

[poulsenll]

Oh, so true... That's funny.....

I agree. Sometimes we get so involved with the trees that we dont realize the kind of forest we are describing.

It was still funny though.

Larry P

[Anijen]

Nibley was/is brilliant.

[maklelan]

With all the people on this board who spend the vast majority of their time deriding LDS scholars for their methodological ineptitudes, there seems to be little response to this article.

[bjw]

I have been reading his work lately and it seems to be very well researched, even if he does stretch from time-to-time. I think his work on the BofA has done the church a great service, and it helped strengthen my faith when I was close to leaving the church. He also used the breathing text to help show how the temple endowment is similar to the creation motif in the scrolls. I'd be willing to bet he has helped the church retain many converts.

However, I've heard about the child abuse charges that an employee of Oprah Winfrey made against him, and that has me worried. I hope he would never do something like that, because he really seemed to have a passion for his work. I just bought his 20 hour Pearl of Great Price lecture series and have really enjoyed watching it.

[Pahoran]

IHowever, I've heard about the child abuse charges that an employee of Oprah Winfrey made against him, and that has me worried. I hope he would never do something like that, because he really seemed to have a passion for his work. I just bought his 20 hour Pearl of Great Price lecture series and have really enjoyed watching it.

If you'd like to know what's really going on with that, check out Kent Jackson's review and Boyd Peterson's response to the allegations in question.

Regards,

Pahoran

[e=mc2]

Now THAT is the best thing Jackson has ever written. THANKS for the link my friend! He redeemed himself from his absolutely gawd-awful review of Nibley earlier in his career.

[LifeOnaPlate]

I have been reading his work lately and it seems to be very well researched, even if he does stretch from time-to-time. I think his work on the BofA has done the church a great service, and it helped strengthen my faith when I was close to leaving the church. He also used the breathing text to help show how the temple endowment is similar to the creation motif in the scrolls. I'd be willing to bet he has helped the church retain many converts.

However, I've heard about the child abuse charges that an employee of Oprah Winfrey made against him, and that has me worried. I hope he would never do something like that, because he really seemed to have a passion for his work. I just bought his 20 hour Pearl of Great Price lecture series and have really enjoyed watching it.

I'm pretty assured that she is a complete liar. Look into the claims. They are ridiculous. I'm not one to disregard the victim story, or whatnot, but she has real problems and they weren't caused by sexual abuse. See the reviews above. There was also a thread last week about the issue with a ton of info, scroll back a few pages.

[maklelan]

However, I've heard about the child abuse charges that an employee of Oprah Winfrey made against him, and that has me worried. I hope he would never do something like that, because he really seemed to have a passion for his work. I just bought his 20 hour Pearl of Great Price lecture series and have really enjoyed watching it.

That would be Martha Beck's book Leaving the Saints, a pitiful attempt at an expose. Of the two reviews from above Peterson's is the best, mostly because he's a family member and can give you a perspective that others can't including first-hand information from Martha's ex-husband. The book is an utter joke. The allegations don't hold up to any amount of pressure.

[BlueDreams]

This is a highly amusing article from a 1977 issue of Dialogue. I could only get URL's for each page, so you have to open them one at a time for each page. The article basically pokes fun at the lengths to which people will go in apologetics to try to connect dots. Enjoy.

http://content.lib.utah.edu/u?/dialogue,1229

http://content.lib.utah.edu/u?/dialogue,1230

http://content.lib.utah.edu/u?/dialogue,1231

http://content.lib.utah.edu/u?/dialogue,1232

Lol, I'd first heard of this in my BoM class at BYU and found it funny. Unfortunately I forgot to save it. Now I have a new copy, thanks!

[Severian]

That would be Martha Beck's book Leaving the Saints, a pitiful attempt at an expose. Of the two reviews from above Peterson's is the best, mostly because he's a family member and can give you a perspective that others can't including first-hand information from Martha's ex-husband. The book is an utter joke. The allegations don't hold up to any amount of pressure.

Look, as far as I can tell, nobody was claiming you need to be dressed completely in Egyptian attire to visit Bird Island. I assume that a simple Ankh staff would be sufficient to help you navigate over any uneven terrain or intellectual obstacles.

[bjw]

If you'd like to know what's really going on with that, check out Kent Jackson's review and Boyd Peterson's response to the allegations in question.

Regards,

Pahoran

Thanks for the links. It's interesting to read what the Nibley family had to say about it.

[katherine the great]

This is a highly amusing article from a 1977 issue of Dialogue. I could only get URL's for each page, so you have to open them one at a time for each page. The article basically pokes fun at the lengths to which people will go in apologetics to try to connect dots. Enjoy.

Was Hugh Nibley poking fun at himself?