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I don’t see how understanding there being only one true God is connected with your belief we are the same kind of being God is. Apart from the Son, Holy Spirit, and Heavenly Mother, can you identify a few of all these other Gods who are currently subjected to him? Does you being “one” with God make you one of these Gods now? Or do you become “one” with God at some future date?

If being offspring truly implies the necessity of a heavenly mother. Referring to “the only true God” makes no sense when Earth is thought by some to have at least four true Gods: Father, Son, Mother, and Holy Spirit.

If God the Father is not a being who became a God and produced spirit children with his heavenly wife, then he is not the true one. “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”

Except that worshipping Joseph Smith’s God leads to another destination.

Two or more people can ask the same question and that makes them the same person. Sure 😀

It depends on how you interpret what the Father is doing while Jesus is acting based on what he observes the Father doing. Yes.

The benefits of celestial marriage I guess. A man cannot be exalted without a woman by his side. It could even be logical that he was the first that the Mother assisted to reach exaltation.

While there is a doctrine acknowledging her existence as a God and heavenly parent, there is no explanation of how she attained godhood. I suspect she followed the same plan that you are said to be following now. It’s logical.

Nope. Who formed Heavenly Mother into a God?

@InCognitus “Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." The phrase 'he doeth' is in the present tense. I don't interpret this as Jesus having spirit children or entering into marriage. Apparently both you and Incognitus concur with Joseph Smith's teaching there are Gods above Heavenly Father and that our Father is merely one in an endless chain with his own heavenly parents. That would clarify how he received a spiritual body prior to obtaining a mortal one.

Who created him as a man?

“In order to understand the subject of the dead, for consolation of those who mourn for the loss of their friends, it is necessary we should understand the character and being of God and how He came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see.”

The only way they can distance themselves from the King Follett discourse is by claiming that Joseph Smith misrepresented the nature of God. According to his view, God was once a man who progressed to divinity. Rather, He has always been God from everlasting to everlasting. I also discovered another sermon, often called the Sermon in the Grove, that reinforced these teachings. I found this information on Mormonism Research Ministry. In essence, he is leading people to worship a different God. I'm unsure when my church branch was established. Unlike the Catholic or Anglican traditions, we don't formally ordain individuals. Instead, members are vetted for positions of authority, but I believe any layperson can baptize a non-believer after they profess faith in Christ.

I am not LDS – I attend a non-denominational Christian church. The Latter-day Saints believe our baptisms, or Catholic ones, are invalid because they are not done by properly authorized individuals.

Just to clarify, when you use the term "gods" for those at the heavenly council, do you mean exalted and glorified beings with resurrected bodies?

When you say “gods,” are you referring specifically to spirit children of Heavenly Father who were already exalted beings at the time of this council? Or are you also including some members of a broader lineage or regress of Deities who may have participated?

Do you mean he ruled over the heavenly council, he rules over other exalted beings which are not part of the family he formed during his married life, or both?

Which gods?

What of biblical verses which speak of only God one?

Thank you for your kind words Rory.

When did the idea arise that the Godhead consists of three separate Gods?

You're assuming the supposed cycle for this Earth has to match the pattern followed by every being who was formed into a God before Heavenly Father attained godhood.

What does being non-divine mean for Him?

What's your perspective on this General Conference talk? In contrast, many Christians reject the idea of a tangible, personal God and a Godhead of three separate beings. They believe that God is a spirit and that the Godhead is only one God. In our view, these concepts are evidence of the falling away we call the Great Apostasy. I’ve been reading about how God is described as a spirit—for example, in Alma 18:26 28, where God is called the “Great Spirit.” At the same time, passages like 3 Nephi 11:36, 2 Nephi 31:21, and Doctrine and Covenants 20:28 talk about the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost as being “one God.” Some questions: When did the idea arise that the Godhead consists of three separate Gods? When did the view that God is a spirit start to be considered incorrect? Related question: If God was not married and did not have a physical body, could we still be considered as being created in his image?

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