USU78 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Some will simply cite the 2000 article, demonstrating the extraordinarily low divorce rates.Some will simply cite the Church teaching and Scriptural invitation that all worthy Mormons should do so.Some will argue mindless adherence to a man-made imposition upon an individual's freedom.So . . . why come?
ELF1024 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Some will simply cite the 2000 article, demonstrating the extraordinarily low divorce rates.Some will simply cite the Church teaching and Scriptural invitation that all worthy Mormons should do so.Some will argue mindless adherence to a man-made imposition upon an individual's freedom.So . . . why come?Because I truely love my wife and I can't envision heaven without her by my side. This is so important to me, that I am trying to get my membership in the church back, so the two of us can eventually be sealed in the temple.
bluebell Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 I chose temple marriage because the blessings invovled were important to me.
CV75 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 So . . . why come?Forgive my obtuseness, but why come where?
Ceeboo Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 So . . . why come?Hey USU78,Why Temple Marriage?I dunno, perhaps you didn't want the non LDS family mebers (Moms and Dads etc) of the bride and and/or groom to be able to support, witness, or be there at the time when the two make vows and become one in the body of our Lord Christ.Maybe?Peace,Ceeboo
bluebell Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Hey USU78,Why Temple Marriage?I dunno, perhaps you didn't want the non LDS family mebers (Moms and Dads etc) of the bride and and/or groom to be able to support, witness, or be there at the time when the two make vows and become one in the body of our Lord Christ.Maybe?Peace,Ceebooyeah, that's it.
Ceeboo Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 yeah, that's it.Let me guess, you are LDS? Peace,Ceeboo
ERMD Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Let me guess, you are LDS? Peace,CeebooSo you honestly think that the reason temple marriage is emphasized by the LDS church and its members is to exclude those who may not be LDS from the ceremony?I expected more from you.
Ceeboo Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 So you honestly think that the reason temple marriage is emphasized by the LDS church and its members is to exclude those who may not be LDS from the ceremony?I expected more from you.Hi ERMD,No! I do not think that is the reason (Obviously it was toungue firmly planted in cheek. I was simply attempting to make a point, thus using "perhaps", "maybe" and a question mark neatly placed at the end of my post).Concerning the (IMHO) highly divisive, sad, and tragic current "rules" sorrounding the LDS temple marraige, I would have expected much more from my LDS friends as well.Peace,Ceeboo
SilverKnight Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Concerning the (IMHO) highly divisive, sad, and tragic current "rules" sorrounding the LDS temple marraige, I would have expected much more from my LDS friends as well.Ceeboo's startling description of our sacred temple marriage rites might rile some feathers, but from the perspective of a nonmember - he is absolutely right.IF you put yourself in the shoes of a nonmember, especially one whose child or family member is getting married in a mormon temple, the inadvertent cruelty of the current rules become painfully clear.Something needs to change, badly.And I don't mean we should let nonmembers into the ceremony.You know how easily this tragic problem could be fixed, without compromising the sacredness or spirit of the ordinance.
ELF1024 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Ceeboo's startling description of our sacred temple marriage rites might rile some feathers, but from the perspective of a nonmember - he is absolutely right.IF you put yourself in the shoes of a nonmember, especially one whose child or family member is getting married in a mormon temple, the inadvertent cruelty of the current rules become painfully clear.Something needs to change, badly.And I don't mean we should let nonmembers into the ceremony.You know how easily this tragic problem could be fixed, without compromising the sacredness or spirit of the ordinance.It's a personal decision if the couple want to get a civil marriage first, or if they choose to go to the temple right away.My parents chose to get a civil marriage and then got a temple marriage a year later.Why would a non-believer want to attend an LDS ceremony? Seems sort of silly to me.
Ceeboo Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Why would a non-believer want to attend an LDS ceremony? Seems sort of silly to me.I dunno, maybe it has something to do with it BEING THEIR CHILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Peace,Ceeboo
thesometimesaint Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Ceeboo:In my own Temple wedding there were 5 people including us. None were related to us.I doubt many nonLDS would understand let alone appreciate the Temple Ceremony. There really is no counterpart. Everyone is dressed in the same color(white)No music, no flowers, no walking down the aisle, no giving away the bribe, very limited seating capacity, just a very short ceremony(lasting less than 5 minutes). The couple looks into two opposing mirrors. Then it is all over and everyone leaves.
ELF1024 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 I dunno, maybe it has something to do with it BEING THEIR CHILD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Peace,CeebooMy current "outlaws" disowned their daughter for joining the church. They weren't invited to the civil ceremony.The point was that if they could attend a civil ceremony, IMHO it should be done. There is nothing IMHO wrong with respecting the wishes of family and waiting a year of the Temple ceremony.
SilverKnight Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 It's a personal decision if the couple want to get a civil marriage first, or if they choose to go to the temple right away.I agree, except the church and mormon culture directly and indirectly discourages this.And an ugly formal punishment exists (a mandatory year wait) for any couple who puts family before faith.My parents chose to get a civil marriage and then got a temple marriage a year later.Therein lies the problem: a rule that punishes otherwise faithful LDS couples who choose not to exclude their nonmormon family members.Why would a non-believer want to attend an LDS ceremony? Seems sort of silly to me.They don't per se. But you bet your life the family of a bride or groom does not want to wait in a parking lot or lobby and miss their son's/daughter's wedding - wherever it might be.
BookofMormonLuvr Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Why? Because they sincerely believe it is a necessary ordinance needed in order to gain the highest degree of exaltation.Elf - Who would NOT want to see their child married, even if in an LDS ceremony?
ELF1024 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 They don't per se. But you bet your life the family of a bride or groom does not want to wait in a parking lot or lobby and miss their son's/daughter's wedding - wherever it might be.I unfortuantely have the exception that disproves the rule.Why? Because they sincerely believe it is a necessary ordinance needed in order to gain the highest degree of exaltation.Elf - Who would NOT want to see their child married, even if in an LDS ceremony?My "outlaws" oddly enough.
SilverKnight Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Ceeboo:In my own Temple wedding there were 5 people including us. None were related to us.I doubt many nonLDS would understand let alone appreciate the Temple Ceremony. There really is no counterpart. Everyone is dressed in the same color(white)No music, no flowers, no walking down the aisle, no giving away the bribe, very limited seating capacity, just a very short ceremony(lasting less than 5 minutes). The couple looks into two opposing mirrors. Then it is all over and everyone leaves.TSS:Downplay the ceremony if you like, but parents not being able to see their child get married is a terrible and unnecessary tragedy.A tragedy could be easily fixed by President Monson, tomorrow, with a single letter - and it need not involve letting a single nonmormon into a temple.
Ceeboo Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 But you bet your life the family of a bride or groom does not want to wait in a parking lot or lobby and miss their son's/daughter's wedding - wherever it might be.Bingo!Peace,Ceeboo
Jeff K. Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 The marriage ceremony promises so much if we are faithful, it helps focus us on what is important in this life and why the most beautiful person in our lives now kneels with us before the alter of the Lord. It is special beyond meaning and words fail us in attempting to explain its profound impact on us spiritually.That is why I married in the Temple.
ELF1024 Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 TSS:Downplay the ceremony if you like, but parents not being able to see their child get married is a terrible and unnecessary tragedy.A tragedy could be easily fixed by President Monson, tomorrow, with a single letter - and it need not involve letting a single nonmormon into a temple.The same arguement could be made for not allowing your children to date/marry anyone outside of the faith. However, I'm not advocating that position, since both my ex-wife and current wife were non-members while we dated, and my father was a non-member. However, I do believe that the youth are encouraged to date within their own faith. For the Strength of Youth:In cultures where dating or courtship is acceptable, dating can help you develop lasting friendships and eventually find an eternal companion. Date only those who have high standards and in whose company you can maintain your standards. It may not come out and say it in so many words, but it IMPLIED.
thesometimesaint Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 Silverknight:I'm not down playing the Temple Ceremony. Just there is not much in common with a "civil" Ceremony. That's a fact. Both sets of family stayed in southern California while we were married in Oakland; California.
BookofMormonLuvr Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 I unfortuantely have the exception that disproves the rule.My "outlaws" oddly enough.We are speaking in general terms of non-LDS who could care less about the church, not those with some type of hostile animosity towards it. The latter group probably wouldn't enter if invited. So let's get back to the feelings of average run-of -the-mill non-Mormons.
SilverKnight Posted December 17, 2010 Posted December 17, 2010 We are speaking in general terms of non-LDS who could care less about the church, not those with some type of hostile animosity towards it. The latter group probably wouldn't enter if invited. So let's get back to the feelings of average run-of -the-mill non-Mormons.Whose reactions to the current LDS temple wedding rules usually go something like this:"We don't know much about the mormon church, but they seem like a nice, family-oriented church.What?! I am not allowed to see my daughter get married? What kind of church is this?"
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