5 things Latter-day Saints should know about ancient Christians

[Smiley McGee]

17 hours ago, mfbukowski said:

YET if the church insists, my paradigm can account for that.

I guess I’m not quite to this point. What is the function of this insistence? Is God so concerned with us speculating correctly? This very insistence all too often seems make a spear out of a plowshare. 

[mfbukowski]

17 hours ago, MiserereNobis said:

Yet the experiences of mysticism suggest and even downright declare that an experience of the divine is beyond words, and therefore beyond logic. By saying this, I am not arguing in favor of the Trinity. I am just saying that when it comes to divinity, the ultimate ground of being, logic always seems to break down. Hence the use of paradox, poetry, and the via negativa. 
 

This prompted me to do more research and I had to re-learn stuff that I knew 60 years ago, that had become a fossilized yet visceral part of my thinking.  It was like finding my Dad's old pipe wrench in the garage and thinking about how and why he held it just that certain way to get results others could not get.

Now it is again clear to me that the "via negativa" was made popular through Parmenides and passed along to Plato and then Plotinus and others - in other words, the influence of Greek philosophy in Christianity comes by way of trying to put into words, what is beyond words.

And of course I don't have to remind you of how Greek philosophy is said to have influenced Christianity, in LDS circles. Not for the better.

We are going more the way of Heraclitus into Process thought.

Full circle and back to the beginning!

We can leave it there, mi amigo.

 

[mfbukowski]

1 hour ago, Smiley McGee said:

I guess I’m not quite to this point. What is the function of this insistence? Is God so concerned with us speculating correctly? This very insistence all too often seems make a spear out of a plowshare. 

Well for me it is not "insistence". 

Let them keep their stories and I will keep mine. Nothing to argue about.

It's just listening to Grandpa who is not quite up to being politically correct and loving him anyway 

[Smiley McGee]

4 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

Let them keep their stories and I will keep mine. Nothing to argue about.

It's just listening to Grandpa who is not quite up to being politically correct and loving him anyway 

 well said