Robert F. Smith Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 22 hours ago, JAHS said: That's probably the same case and unfortunately my wife was one of a small group of people he decided to file a lawsuit against, claiming that they were conspiring against him to ruin his reputation. We didn't even know him. It's like they pulled a few names out of the stake directory. My wife didn't even know she was being sued until we read about it in the newspaper. Eventually someone did finally come to the house and notified her of the law suit against her. The judge told the man that we might have a good case against him for malicious prosecution. Eventually they dropped the suit against the group of people but not after we had to pay a lawyer a couple thousand dollars. Sounds like he turned into a real bottom feeder, maybe even a prospective son of perdition.
Jeanne Posted August 1, 2016 Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Robert F. Smith said: I don't know whether they did. That is a claim that was made. I'd love to see the investigation reports from the prosecutor's office, or on file at the State Medical Board. I have no idea what actually happened, or what that former stake president is doing now. I used to visit regularly on assignment with the LDS group at a medium security federal prison, and I got the impression (we never asked) that some of those guys could have been bishops or stake presidents before being caught by the Feds. Naturally all were excommunicants, so we never provided the Sacrament. However, they ran very good meetings each Sunday, and I loved hearing their testimonies. One was a lawyer. I imagine they committed mainly white collar crimes, but there may have been some molesters among them. That must have been quite an experience for you. Edited to add: I used to work at the Utah State Library Commission. We worked with book mobiles and books for different areas all over the State. One of my jobs every couple of weeks was to drive a van to the Utah State Prison to deliver books. We took them by orders...Plenty of porn involved..so any church in a prison with people who wanted some spirituality is a plus to me. Edited August 1, 2016 by Jeanne 1
omni Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 This thread is a perfect example of how we are quick to describe Church leaders as fallible or imperfect when speaking in generalities, yet when it comes to specific examples we quickly revert to a defend-the-brethren-at-all-cost mentality. This is about as clear of an example as you can get of infallibility, yet some would rather ascribe this blunder to God than to one of the Brethren. 1
Guest Posted August 2, 2016 Posted August 2, 2016 (edited) On July 31, 2016 at 7:03 PM, JAHS said: If callings are supposed to be inspired by revelation why does God allow some unworthy people to be called in positions of high leadership in the church? For example (true story), a medical doctor is called to be a stake president and serves in that position for several years. Later it is found out that before being called and while serving in this position he was sexually abusing female patients under the guise of "medical procedures", assuring them that what he was doing would help cure their medical conditions. He is eventually found guilty of medical malpractice and is now serving time in prison for this and other violations, including practicing medicine without a license. Lawsuits were brought against him and he in turn falsely brought malicious lawsuits against other innocent people, only to be used as a defense against those suing him. He hurt a lot of innocent people by these things he did. I know sometimes callings come by way of desperation rather than inspiration and that no one is perfect, but what do you say to a person who has been severely hurt both emotionally and spiritually by such people, who have supposedly been called by revelation in these high leadership positions? How can they trust the promise that people are called through inspiration from God? One can only hope that those called are inspired, and that those calling them to their positions are also inspired. But from experience, there are more who are righteously called, than wicked men being called. I have served with very humble men who always sought the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and have done wonderful things. In the end, we are all flawed people seeking to do our best within our limitations. Except the person you mentioned who is not reflective of rank and file membership of the Church. Edited August 2, 2016 by Pa Pa
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