Now For Your Moment Of Cool.

[thesometimesaint]

http://www.alternet.org/how-graphene-can-save-planet?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark

[MormonFreeThinker]

http://www.alternet.org/how-graphene-can-save-planet?paging=off&current_page=1#bookmark

 

Humans are causing Global Warming, Global Warming is likely the disasters described in The Book of John Revelation. Some models predict stronger and more frequent hurricanes and more droughts. 

 

 

 

 

The church links to a book that talks about Global Warming 

 

"The book, Stewardship and the Creation: LDS Perspectives on the Environment, is a publication of the Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University"

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/environmental-stewardship-conservation

Edited September 7, 2014 by MormonFreeThinker

[The Nehor]

Yeah, graphene is neat and prospects are good but this is probably still at least a decade from practical application. There are a number of engineering hurdles to surmount and we need a way to mass-produce it relatively cheaply. Last I heard it was costing about $70 for a square inch of the stuff.

[Brian 2.0]

Is it the same stuff that is made by using PC DVD burners, making a layer of it on a "cd" using the laser in the burner?

[MormonFreeThinker]

The Church linked to a Book that talks about Global Warming

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/environmental-stewardship-conservation

 

 

Stewardship and the Creation LDS Perspectives on the Environment

 

"If one considers the effects of tiny coccolithophores on the global climate system, it comes as little surprise that large, carbon-dioxide-emitting humans also have large impacts on the earth. Two important ways that we impact the earth today are by living beyond the earth’s means and by altering the balance among global systems. These impacts are explained below" 

 

http://rsc.byu.edu/archived/stewardship-and-creation/12-how-can-church-members-increase-their-environmental-awareness

[CV75]

Some models predict stronger and more frequent hurricanes and more droughts. 

 

I didn't know Katharine Hayhoe was a model... why do so many celebrities get into this?

[thesometimesaint]

Humans are causing Global Warming, Global Warming is likely the disasters described in The Book of John Revelation. Some models predict stronger and more frequent hurricanes and more droughts. 

 

 

 

 

The church links to a book that talks about Global Warming 

 

"The book, Stewardship and the Creation: LDS Perspectives on the Environment, is a publication of the Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University"

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/environmental-stewardship-conservation

 

Human are also the cure. I've always thought we should be wise stewards of our land, water, and air.

[thesometimesaint]

Yeah, graphene is neat and prospects are good but this is probably still at least a decade from practical application. There are a number of engineering hurdles to surmount and we need a way to mass-produce it relatively cheaply. Last I heard it was costing about $70 for a square inch of the stuff.

 

Economics of scale. Who knows Mr. Musk may become the next Henry Ford.

[The Nehor]

Economics of scale. Who knows Mr. Musk may become the next Henry Ford.

 

You need the technique to manufacture or process before economies of scale kick in. I hope it does end up working out and think there is a good chance it will. It will almost certainly take a few years to a few decades.

[thesometimesaint]

You need the technique to manufacture or process before economies of scale kick in. I hope it does end up working out and think there is a good chance it will. It will almost certainly take a few years to a few decades.

 

I don't know. It was about a decade from Daimler to Ford.

[MormonFreeThinker]

Most climate scientists are saying that humans are causing Global Warming, it is very hard to find some that are still skeptical, but it is easy to find the climate scientists that are saying that Global Warming is real. Every Hour a climate scientist is being quoted here 

 

http://www.skepticalscience.com/nsh/?

 

 

 

[Buzzard]

Humans are causing Global Warming, Global Warming is likely the disasters described in The Book of John Revelation. Some models predict stronger and more frequent hurricanes and more droughts. 

 

 

 

 

The church links to a book that talks about Global Warming 

 

"The book, Stewardship and the Creation: LDS Perspectives on the Environment, is a publication of the Religious Studies Center, Brigham Young University"

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/environmental-stewardship-conservation

Smart young woman. Lose the sleeveless top, though. That might not cause a stir in Texas, but bare shoulders don't cut it with the Mormon crowd. ;-)

[The Nehor]

Most climate scientists are saying that humans are causing Global Warming, it is very hard to find some that are still skeptical, but it is easy to find the climate scientists that are saying that Global Warming is real. Every Hour a climate scientist is being quoted here 

 

Climate change is definitely the lesser problem. Here is the real issue:

 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-climate-change-skeptics-could-reach-catastr,36521/

[MormonFreeThinker]

Climate change is definitely the lesser problem. Here is the real issue:

 

http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-climate-change-skeptics-could-reach-catastr,36521/

 

It is very sad that many members of my church fall for anti-Global Warming propaganda. 

[thesometimesaint]

Smart young woman. Lose the sleeveless top, though. That might not cause a stir in Texas, but bare shoulders don't cut it with the Mormon crowd. ;-)

 

She's one of the few women that can pull off the right to bare arms. 

[MormonFreeThinker]

She's one of the few women that can pull off the right to bare arms. 

 

Global Warming is very serious, children in Africa are going to suffer serious consequences, all because anti-Global Warming people cannot even consider Global Warming as a possibility, not even a small possibility, it is just so sad that many members of our church are 100% certain that Global Warming is a hoax. 

 

"Africa: By 2020, between 75 and 250 million people are projected to be exposed to increased water stress; yields from rain-fed agriculture could be reduced by up to 50 percent in some regions by 2020; agricultural production, including access to food, may be severely compromised" 

http://climate.nasa.gov/effects/

Edited September 10, 2014 by MormonFreeThinker

[thesometimesaint]

Global Warming is very serious, children in Africa are going to suffer serious consequences, all because anti-Global Warming people cannot even consider Global Warming as a possibility, not even a small possibility, it is just so sad that many members of our church are 100% certain that Global Warming is a hoax. 

 

"Africa: By 2020, between 75 and 250 million people are projected to be exposed to increased water stress; yields from rain-fed agriculture could be reduced by up to 50 percent in some regions by 2020; agricultural production, including access to food, may be severely compromised" 

http://climate.nasa.gov/effects/

 

I'm not trying to be flippant. Global Warming is a serious problem not just for poor countries, but rich ones as well. Much of the western US is under severe drought brought on largely through changes in global weather patterns. IE; California crops help feed the world, so any increase in price because of the lack of water makes an already bad situation worse here and much worse in poor countries. So yes it is a man made problem, and has man made solutions.

 

Ps; When we wanted to go to the moon we fortunately didn't consult with the Flat Earth Society or Joseph Fielding Smith.

Edited September 10, 2014 by thesometimesaint

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

It is very sad that many members of my church fall for anti-Global Warming propaganda. 

It is very sad that many members of my church fall for the global warming propaganda.

 

What is even more pathetic is that I even get sucked into commenting on a topic that is not even meant for this board. I must be insane.

[MormonFreeThinker]

It is very sad that many members of my church fall for the global warming propaganda.

 

What are your sources? Where are the climate scientists that are saying that? I can name many climate scientists (that have a university profile) that disagree with your conclusion. You are 100% certain, I am not, but I am humble enough to listen to the climate scientists. What if you are wrong? Don't you care about the children in Africa? To you, isn't global warming at least a small possibility? 

 

Global Warming can also be a religious topic, but it is primarily scientific.   

 

PS TV meteorologists are not climatologists, meteorology is a different field. 

Edited September 10, 2014 by MormonFreeThinker

[Vance]

Man made global warming/climate change is a hoax. They have to keep throwing out non compliant data from their models to maintain the farce. How many more years without temperature rises will it take before they admit the hoax? We are already up to 16.

[MormonFreeThinker]

Man made global warming/climate change is a hoax. They have to keep throwing out non compliant data from their models to maintain the farce. How many more years without temperature rises will it take before they admit the hoax? We are already up to 16.

 

Again, where are the climate scientists that are saying that? I can name many climate scientists (that have a university profile) that disagree with you. 

You are 100% certain, I am not. 

 

Models? The evidence for man made global warming does not come from Computer models, you need to read Elder Uchtdorf's statement in the Open Minded topic. 

 

PS TV meteorologists are not climatologists, meteorology is a different field.

Edited September 10, 2014 by MormonFreeThinker

[Vance]

Again, where are the climate scientists that are saying that? I can name many climate scientists (that have a university profile) that disagree with you. 

You are 100% certain, I am not. 

 

Models? The evidence for man made global warming does not come from Computer models, you need to read Elder Uchtdorf's statement in the Open Minded topic. 

 

PS TV meteorologists are not climatologists, meteorology is a different field.

Here is a clue. The climate scientists are in on the hoax.

Where is the evidence? Don't you pay attention?

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/07/30/1122-record-cold-temps-in-the-u-s-in-one-week/

http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/02/05/4406-u-s-record-cold-temperature-in-january-1073-snowfall-records/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/And-global-COOLING-Return-Arctic-ice-cap-grows-29-year.html#ixzz2mKA1Yk91

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/24877346/another-blast-of-arctic-air-follows-latest-snow#axzz2v0jlaArY

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/07/02/antarctic-sea-ice-hits-second-all-time-record-in-a-week/

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/01/bitter-cold-coming-to-green-bay-on-sunday/

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/brisbane-hits-coldest-temperature-in-103-years/story-e6frg6n6-1226986116278?nk=9fe3cbf4f5bf37a6dc3f771dfd4654b8

And I have about 20 more if you need more.

[Vance]

PS TV meteorologists are not climatologists, meteorology is a different field.

So, evidence of the hoax must be ignored?

I have heard that "weather" is what is happening outside and the "climate" is the clothes you have in your closet".

Well guess what? The types of clothes in my closet are the same as when I was a child. That was back before there was the "We're headed into a new ice age" scare of the early 70's. It was a hoax back then too.

[MormonFreeThinker]

And I have about 20 more if you need more.

 

It is extremely easy to find websites in Google, anti-mormons do the same thing, what about reliable websites? 

 

Here is a small list of Climatologists that are saying that man made global warming is real, I can make the list a lot bigger if I had the time, Can you do the same? 

 

"Look for sources by recognized and respected historians, whether they’re members of the Church or not" - Elder Snow. That also applies to Science. 

 

"there is now a very clear pattern in the scientific evidence documenting that the earth is warming, that warming is due largely to human activity, that warming is causing important changes in climate, and that rapid and potentially catastrophic changes in the near future are very possible." - Dr Lonnie G. Thompson, Paleoclimatology

University Profile http://www.geology.ohio-state.edu/faculty_bios.php?id=52

 

"I think that the debate is happening around the world. It’s not a debate, though, in the science community. There’s no debate at all there. The scientists know that human influences are creating greenhouse gases and these are warming the earth" - Dr. Peter H Hildebrand, Atmospheric scientist

NASA profile http://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/sed/index.cfm?fuseAction=people.jumpBio&&iphonebookid=18883

 

"As we add carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, we're creating warming that would last more than a thousand years – even if we suddenly stopped emitting." - Dr. Gabriele C. Hegerl, Professor of Climate System Science 

University Profile http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/geosciences/people?indv=1613

 

"When we see records being broken and unprecedented events, the onus is on those who deny any connection to climate change to prove their case. Global warming has fundamentally altered the background conditions that give rise to all weather. In the strictest sense, all weather is now connected to climate change." Dr. Kevin E. Trenberth, Senior Scientist in the Climate Analysis Section

University Profile http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/staff/trenbert/

 

Update: I have given a look to some of your websites, you clearly do not understand Climate Science.

 

You wrote, "That was back before there was the "We're headed into a new ice age" scare of the early 70's. It was a hoax back then too."

That was what the media was saying, not what most Scientific papers were saying. There were two possibilities, some 1970s papers predicted cooling, but most 1970s papers predicted Global Warming. Now in 2014, we have more than enough evidence. 

Edited September 10, 2014 by MormonFreeThinker

[Vance]

http://nypost.com/2013/12/05/global-warming-proof-is-evaporating/

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/07/12/coldest-antarctic-june-ever-recorded/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2420783/Worlds-climate-scientists-confess-Global-warming-just-QUARTER-thought--computers-got-effects-greenhouse-gases-wrong.html

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9B0DE4D6123EE632A25756C0A9679C946990D6CF

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100247913/most-scientists-believe-in-man-made-global-warming-heres-a-new-reason-why-they-may-be-wrong/

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20140104/DAB3UT982.html

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/11/29/nearly-1000-record-low-temperatures-set-as-another-round-of-arctic-air-forecast-to-deep-freeze-the-u-s/

And this gem.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/30/noaa-quietly-reinstates-july-1936-as-the-hottest-month-on-record/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/05/26/to-the-horror-of-global-warming-alarmists-global-cooling-is-here/