EllenMaksoud Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 Colossians 1:15, from LDS.org 15 Who is the aimage of the invisible bGod, the cfirstborn of devery creature: So, how do the LDS handle the above scripture in the face of the "God is flesh and bone" scripture? I know how I handle it. To me God can be anything he wants to be and from a theoretical physics point of view, it should be rather easy for him.
thesometimesaint Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 God the Father is not literally invisible, but we don't see him if we aren't looking. IE; We normally don't "see" the air. To us it is normally invisible, except when it gets smoggy.
Palerider Posted November 23, 2013 Posted November 23, 2013 (edited) This is the way I handle this. I can't speak for LDS. God for all intents and purposes keeps his image invisible to man because NO man can look upon his glory. To us he is invisible (unseeable). But he must have an image otherwise the Son would not be able to show us that image in himself. If the Father were "invisible" and the Son assumes the image of the Father then so must the Son be invisible..... But to paraphrase the scripture, "If ye have seen me ye have seen the Father" John 14:9 Edited November 23, 2013 by Palerider
CV75 Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Colossians 1:15, from LDS.org 15 Who is the aimage of the invisible bGod, the cfirstborn of devery creature: So, how do the LDS handle the above scripture in the face of the "God is flesh and bone" scripture? I know how I handle it. To me God can be anything he wants to be and from a theoretical physics point of view, it should be rather easy for him.This might help--the mysteries are always invisible until they are revelaed. "The “mystery which hath been hid from ages” (Colossians 1:26) is that God sent His Son, the “firstborn of every creature” (Colossians 1:15), into the world and that through His Son’s Atonement all mankind can become pure, blameless, and saved in His presence (see Colossians 1:20–23). Paul was making this mystery known to all who would listen." http://www.lds.org/manual/new-testament-student-study-guide/the-epistle-of-paul-the-apostle-to-the-colossians/colossians-1-4-a-warning-against-false-teachings?lang=eng&query=Colossians
EllenMaksoud Posted November 24, 2013 Author Posted November 24, 2013 This is the way I handle this. I can't speak for LDS. God for all intents and purposes keeps his image invisible to man because NO man can look upon his glory. To us he is invisible (unseeable). But he must have an image otherwise the Son would not be able to show us that image in himself. If the Father were "invisible" and the Son assumes the image of the Father then so must the Son be invisible..... But to paraphrase the scripture, "If ye have seen me ye have seen the Father" John 14:9Well, unless I remember incorrectly, Moses did see Heavenly Father in the OT, and that is what turned his countenance white and he was so bright that the children could not look at him. So, for a time, he wore a veil over his face. Now that I have said that, I will need to go look it up. Please give me some time.
Stargazer Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 This is the way I handle this. I can't speak for LDS. God for all intents and purposes keeps his image invisible to man because NO man can look upon his glory. To us he is invisible (unseeable). But he must have an image otherwise the Son would not be able to show us that image in himself. If the Father were "invisible" and the Son assumes the image of the Father then so must the Son be invisible..... But to paraphrase the scripture, "If ye have seen me ye have seen the Father" John 14:9 Very nice, Paleface! I mean, Pale Rider.
Palerider Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 (edited) Well, unless I remember incorrectly, Moses did see Heavenly Father in the OT, and that is what turned his countenance white and he was so bright that the children could not look at him. So, for a time, he wore a veil over his face. Now that I have said that, I will need to go look it up. Please give me some time. The scripture you speak of is found in Exodus 33: 23-24 You're memory is at least partially correct. But I think you will find that LDS and some (not all) other religions believe that the Savior was Jehovah the God of the Old Testament. So Moses would have been communicating with and "seeing" the Savior's premortal spirit, not God the Father. Even then he was not allowed to see the Savior's face. As far as I am concerned no man has seen the Father...... Please see: 1 Corinthians 10: 1-4 Edited November 25, 2013 by Palerider
cdowis Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Colossians 1:15, from LDS.org 15 Who is the aimage of the invisible bGod, the cfirstborn of devery creature: So, how do the LDS handle the above scripture in the face of the "God is flesh and bone" scripture? I know how I handle it. To me God can be anything he wants to be and from a theoretical physics point of view, it should be rather easy for him.I have found that the dictionary is often helpful to give an answer to many of these questions. invisible == not visible; not perceptible by the eye. Thus, an atom is invisible, a virus is invisible, etc to the unaided eye. God is invisible to the world, but visible to those who have been given power to see Him.
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