EllenMaksoud Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Ellen, are you sure you aren't doing a bit of that anti stuff like is done to LDS but the EV's ? Lumping a few in with the rest? The ones I've seen, usually from afar, are pretty good people.I was just at a photo shoot, and came home to your reply. And you know, you could be right. My only defense, how ever lame, is that they started it. I just keyed off the way I was approached, and agree that this attitude needs to be worked on. Thank you. 1
Tacenda Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) I was just at a photo shoot, and came home to your reply. And you know, you could be right. My only defense, how ever lame, is that they started it. I just keyed off the way I was approached, and agree that this attitude needs to be worked on. Thank you.I just hope you meet some EV's, Jesus lovers, Born agains, that you like one day and get that terrible taste out of your mouth! Btw, were you the shooter or the shootee tonight? If you don't mind me asking. Edited October 24, 2013 by Tacenda
EllenMaksoud Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I just hope you meet some EV's, Jesus lovers, Born agains, that you like one day and get that terrible taste out of your mouth! Btw, we re you the shooter or the shootee? I actually do know some decent Ev folk, though we spar harshly at times, and make up. I suppose they see me as an eccentric maverick, though relatively harmless. I was always questioning as an Ev; seeking a more perfect knowledge of God. I saw the conflict between the Trinity and the first commandment very early on, and simply that I was not intelligent enough to see the truth, but now believe there is a conflict. Having spent my earlier years with violent, hateful people, it did not take long for the hate and anger of some people to make me feel repulsed, and wish to run away. I was actually thrown out of the Ev because I sinned, but I had long been on the way out because of several issues; hateful talk being only one of them. Such was my guilt, and contrition after I was thrown out that Islam quickly seemed the way to proceed. I had such self loathing that covering up to hide my sin, and prostrating myself on the floor to beg forgiveness seemed the correct approach, though I never seemed to feel forgiven. Then I encountered the Mormon Sisters, whose daft feeling devotion to the idea that one like me could be forgiven, even loved, felt totally insane at first. Later, much to my astonishment, I began to have some hope and was later baptized. Mean while, those crazy Mormons kept insisting I was amazing, wonderful, astonishing and used so many other terms in reference to me, that I actually began to hope that their words could be true. So now the Mormons have created a monster, and I am quite thankful for this miracle. My evil childhood and the Ev I was with tore me down completely. The Mormons convinced me to live. That is the source of my gratitude.
altersteve Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Ummmm, OOOOkkkaaayyyy . Well, THE issue for our age is being Gay, marrying gays, gay rights and all that ad nauseous. And I don't mean that is not an important issue, but I have seen it discussed in LDS circles in a mostly civil way. In my old denomination (4 Square) and many like it, anyone doing any sort of advocation for them would be roundly trounced. Yes, the LDS have some relatively conservative ideas, but they are all filtered through strong love; in my opinion, that is. However, adhering to the D&C 89, and other things just makes them feel to me to be more conservative. Of course, who in their right mind would allow a fully covered Muslim woman to walk into and attend their Sacrament Service? Most certainly not a Baptist or a 4 Square, or AG, or Catholic, um well maybe Catholics would, I don't know. I guess my argument is not very strong...Maybe I'm just a bit liberal for a Mormon, then.
DarkScythe Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Well My opinion of Anti Mormons, is counter troll and use Spiderman pictures. Trolling can be funny if you know how. As long as you can get enjoyment, it is alright to add fuel to the fire.
altersteve Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I was just at a photo shoot, and came home to your reply. And you know, you could be right. My only defense, how ever lame, is that they started it. I just keyed off the way I was approached, and agree that this attitude needs to be worked on. Thank you.They would reply that we started it when Joseph Smith said what God told him about other Christian religions.
ERayR Posted October 26, 2013 Posted October 26, 2013 Joseph Smith (and other LDS leaders of the past) taught Heavenly Father was oncea man who became a God. This part of the 1997 version of Gospel Principles wasnever labelled as a false doctrine so I assume they still believe it, even though it wasquietly removed from the current version. "We believe in a God who has attained his exalted state by a path which now his children are permitted to follow. In the face of direct charges of blasphemy, the church proclaims the eternal truth: As Man Is, God Once Was, As God Is, Man May Be"(Doctrines of Salvation, page 430). The teaching of Heavenly Father being an exalted man can also be found in otherplaces: April 1971, New Era, People on other WorldsApril 1971, Ensign, The King Follett DiscourseMay 1976, New Era, How to Gain a TestimonyJuly 1979, Ensign, Line Upon LineFebruary 1982, Ensign, I Have a QuestionJanuary 1989, Ensign, The Restoration of Major Doctrines Through Joseph SmithFebruary 2002, Ensign, The Origin of ManJanuary 2005, Liahona, Strengthening the Family: Created in the Image of God, Male and FemaleOctober 2008, General Conference, God Loves and Helps all His Children2008, Teachings of Presidents of the Church - Joseph Smith, chapter 2: God the Eternal FatherFebruary 2012, Liahona, Our Father in Heaven. I wonder if you take the above seriously when it keeps popping up. Evangelicals don't worship an exalted man so it sounds like we are different after all. Regards,Jim I am indeed sorry.
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