Predictions: Goofy Anti-Mormon Questions At Tonight'S Debate

[DavidB]

It's my observation that generally, when it's brought up outside the Church it's either by an anti-Mormon endeavoring to make Mormonism look ridiculous by taking doctrinal beliefs out of context, or it's by an ill-informed individual who has been misled by such anti-Mormons.

So an ill-informed honest seeker of truth is anti-Mormon for simply asking about what he heard.

Edited October 17, 2012 by DavidB

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

So an ill-informed honest seeker of truth is anti-Mormon for simply asking about what he heard.

Yup you go it. You are an anti mormon just for bringing this up.

[Scott Lloyd]

So an ill-informed honest seeker of truth is anti-Mormon for simply asking about what he heard.

Re-read my posts and be honest with yourself as to whether that's what I said.

[Tacenda]

The latest buzz is on Romney saying he had "binders full of women". It was referring to his staff when he served as governor. He apparently had more women working on his staff than any other state (some study came up with it) and he had made a concerted effort to make it equal. And the viewers of the debate had a hey day with the way he said it and then put it on twitter.

Edited October 18, 2012 by Tacenda

[Scott Lloyd]

The latest buzz is on Romney saying he had "binders full of women". It was referring to his staff when he served as governor. He apparently had more women working on his staff than any other state (some study came up with it) and he had made a concerted effort to make it equal. And the viewers of the debate had a hey day with the way he said it and then put it on twitter.

Reminds me of the incident in the 1992 campaign when Dan Quayle was a visiting judge at a grade-school spelling bee and misspelled potato. Quayle was sabotaged, though not intentionally. Among the cards provided to him with the spelling words written on them was one containing the word potatoe misspelled with an e on the end.

Like the "binders full of women," that too got far more attention than it deserved. "Saturday Night LIve" ultimately did a skit poking fun — not at Quayle, but at the numbskulls who wouldn't let it be and kept beating the incident to death.

Edited October 18, 2012 by Scott Lloyd

[thesometimesaint]

Those binders full of women were uncomfortable places to be.

But more seriously Romney didn't ask for lists of more women. Those were produced by a bipartisan group before Romney was ever elected. To his credit Romney did hire more women. However fact remains that there were fewer women in prominent government positions after Romney's term as governor than before.

http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/10/17/binders-full-women-mitt-romney-claim-not-entirely-accurate/jrKRRGSIPqjvuKX8dgq6gL/story.html

Side note; There were no women partners in Romney's Bain Capital.

[canard78]

Those binders full of women were uncomfortable places to be.

But more seriously Romney didn't ask for lists of more women. Those were produced by a bipartisan group before Romney was ever elected. To his credit Romney did hire more women. However fact remains that there were fewer women in prominent government positions after Romney's term as governor than before.

http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/10/17/binders-full-women-mitt-romney-claim-not-entirely-accurate/jrKRRGSIPqjvuKX8dgq6gL/story.html

Side note; There were no women partners in Romney's Bain Capital.

Of course not. That's because, as a Mormon, Mitt understands that a woman's place is in the home

(Ducks into the bunker)

[Sky]

I watched the debate from start to finish, and none of these kinds of questions came up. Did anybody honestly think they would? The closest we got was when Romney briefly mentioned his service as a bishop (he used the word pastor) and a missionary for his church. And Obama responded basically by saying that he believes Romney is a good man and cares about his faith and family, but simply has the wrong ideas for the country.

Edit: Romney also mentioned how he believes we are all children of the same God.

Edited October 19, 2012 by Sky

[Scott Lloyd]

Those binders full of women were uncomfortable places to be.

But more seriously Romney didn't ask for lists of more women. Those were produced by a bipartisan group before Romney was ever elected. To his credit Romney did hire more women. However fact remains that there were fewer women in prominent government positions after Romney's term as governor than before.

http://www.boston.co...q6gL/story.html

This strikes me as nitpicking and quibbling. The story says he appointed his lieutenant governor to work with this bi-partisan group. He didn't have to do that; he could have just ignored them.

And how do we know this was the only group he worked with? He might have gone to other women's groups, just as he said, in addition to MassGap. The Boston Globe writer himself might be in possession of only part of the real story, even as he claims Romney's account "isn't entirely accurate."

Facts get altered over time with the retelling. It's a reflection of the fallacy of human memory and the limitation of individual perspective. This just seems to me like a case of "he-said, she-said."

Bottom line: Romney, it seems, did reach out for women appointees when he assumed his term as governor, which is the overall point he was trying to make.

And the ridicule over "binders full of women" is lame and misplaced.

Edited October 19, 2012 by Scott Lloyd

[Scott Lloyd]

I watched the debate from start to finish, and none of these kinds of questions came up. Did anybody honestly think they would?

I want to say no, and in fact, I wasn't entirely serious when I posed the question in the O.P.

At the same time, since Romney's first presidential campaign in 2008, I have been disappointed in the behavior of some segments of the U.S. populace as it relates to the Church in this supposedly enlightened age.

Edited October 19, 2012 by Scott Lloyd

[TAO]

To be quite honest, I thought the 'Binders Full of Women' comment and the story around it showed Romney's practical personality. It made him look more normal, by using a semi-idiom like that, tbh. Then again, I'm not exactly your normal observer.

[thesometimesaint]

Scott Lloyd:

It is known as putting the cart before the horse.

[Scott Lloyd]

Scott Lloyd:

It is known as putting the cart before the horse.

I'm afraid I don't follow you; please explain.

[Sky]

At the same time, since Romney's first presidential campaign in 2008, I have been disappointed in the behavior of some segments of the U.S. populace as it relates to the Church in this supposedly enlightened age.

I share your sentiments. But I've also been disappointed in the ignorant behavior of some segments of the population who malign President Obama on the basis of his race, religion, and/or citizenship.

[Scott Lloyd]

I share your sentiments. But I've also been disappointed in the ignorant behavior of some segments of the population who malign President Obama on the basis of his race, religion, and/or citizenship.

I quite agree.