orion88 Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 The sermon is called "The Power of the Priesthood."http://lds.org/gener...ng&query=gideonIt says, "President Monson also spoke of Gideon, a hero in the Old Testament. Gideonwas chosen to lead the armies of Israel, thousands strong. But of them all, he choseonly 300 men. Gideon had an interesting way of selecting his recruits. When the mendrank water at a stream, most “bowed down … to drink.” Those he passed over. Afew scooped up water in their hands and drank, remaining completely alert. Theywere the ones chosen." This is linked to footnote #2 - Judges 7:4–8."And the Lord said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down untothe water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say untothee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I sayunto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go."If you want to be accurate, it was not Gideon who choose the 300 men; it was God. And it was not Gideon who had an interesting way of selecting his recruits; it wasGod.Did any of you in attendence at the priesthood session catch this?Thanks,Tony
altersteve Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Who cares? Nobody has every claimed that everything said in General Conference is 100% infallible.
Arkholt Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Some members say that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon. Shouldn't we attribute that to God? Yes. But it makes no difference, because we all know that it was translated by the gift and power of God. God did it, but Joseph was the instrument. God chose those men, but Gideon was the instrument. "Whether by mine own voice, or by the voice of my servants, it is the same."
ERayR Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 The sermon is called "The Power of the Priesthood."http://lds.org/gener...ng&query=gideonIt says, "President Monson also spoke of Gideon, a hero in the Old Testament. Gideonwas chosen to lead the armies of Israel, thousands strong. But of them all, he choseonly 300 men. Gideon had an interesting way of selecting his recruits. When the mendrank water at a stream, most “bowed down … to drink.” Those he passed over. Afew scooped up water in their hands and drank, remaining completely alert. Theywere the ones chosen." This is linked to footnote #2 - Judges 7:4–8."And the Lord said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down untothe water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say untothee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I sayunto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go."If you want to be accurate, it was not Gideon who choose the 300 men; it was God. And it was not Gideon who had an interesting way of selecting his recruits; it wasGod.Did any of you in attendence at the priesthood session catch this?Thanks,TonyMost of us at the Priesthood session were there to receive spiritual edification not to pick at nits.
Log Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Yes, it is somewhat discomfiting when scriptural accounts are not presented completely accurately. I have caught even Hugh Nibley mis-citing scripture in a few places.On a brighter side, Jonah: A Veggie Tales Movie, is actually pretty good about presenting the scriptural account accurately. I was impressed...
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 The sermon is called "The Power of the Priesthood."http://lds.org/gener...ng&query=gideonIt says, "President Monson also spoke of Gideon, a hero in the Old Testament. Gideonwas chosen to lead the armies of Israel, thousands strong. But of them all, he choseonly 300 men. Gideon had an interesting way of selecting his recruits. When the mendrank water at a stream, most “bowed down … to drink.” Those he passed over. Afew scooped up water in their hands and drank, remaining completely alert. Theywere the ones chosen." This is linked to footnote #2 - Judges 7:4–8."And the Lord said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down untothe water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say untothee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I sayunto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go."If you want to be accurate, it was not Gideon who choose the 300 men; it was God. And it was not Gideon who had an interesting way of selecting his recruits; it wasGod.Did any of you in attendence at the priesthood session catch this?Thanks,TonySplitting hairs...God spoke to Gideon...Gideon chose as commanded.
cdowis Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Gideon made the choice, based on what the Lord instructed him. The Lord does not pay tithing, I pay it based on His instruction. I am the one paying the tithing.Get a life.
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Gideon made the choice, based on what the Lord instructed him. The Lord does not pay tithing, I pay it based on His instruction. I am the one paying the tithing.Get a life.This was my point, the Op is semantics.
cinepro Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 Frankly, ever since I was a child, the story of the men drinking the water as a "test" didn't make much sense to me, since either form of drinking could be seen as a sign of fitness. A man who is keeping his eyes alert for the enemy may be anxious to run, or he might be more than willing to fight but doesn't want to get surprised! Or he may have made a deal with his neighbor that he would keep on the lookout so his buddy can lap directly from the stream and not worry about ambush.As for whose idea it was, I suspect President Monson recognized the flaw in the plan and therefore surmised that it must have been Gideon's plan.
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