Young Lds Men? Delaying Marriage

[Scott Lloyd]

Notice the date of his post (01 September 2011). Lehi hasn't posted on the board for some time and I can't access his membership to see when he was last online.

The thread I linked to has him posting on Dec. 14, 2011, so he was still here then.

Add-on: A Google search turns up posts by him on this board in March and August of this year.

Edited November 20, 2012 by Scott Lloyd

[DavidB]

As I recall, it was the editor of the paper who made the "menace to society" statement and not Brigham Young. A institute Director showed me the clipping from whence the statement came.

[Scott Lloyd]

As I recall, it was the editor of the paper who made the "menace to society" statement and not Brigham Young. A institute Director showed me the clipping from whence the statement came.

The "editor of the paper" (the Deseret News) was apostle George Q. Cannon, and we have already referred to his statement. It is quoted in one of the links given in my prior post.

What probably happened is that at some point in time, Elder Cannon's statement was misquoted to some extent and mistakenly attributed to Brigham Young, and the errors got perpetuated down through the years. That's my best guess, anyway.

DavidB, are you "frankenstein" in the thread of last December, to which I gave a link a few posts ago? He said precisely the same thing in that thread that you just did here, including the element of having learned about it from an Institute director.

If so, you wouldn't be the first person to have been banned from the board and then signed on under a different screen name.

I gave the same response to the same comment back then, by the way. Sometimes, being on this board seems like Groundhog Day.

Addendum:

Compare this from "frankenstein" ...

I believe the "menace" quote is actually the opinion of the editor of LDS Church paper in Salt Lake/Utah at the time - 1800s (yes I realize this would be more 1845 - 1900). The quote was shown to me by an institute Director who wanted to set the record that it was not BY but some other persons opinion. I can not show you the proof, this is just my memory from the late 1990s

... with this from "DavidB":

As I recall, it was the editor of the paper who made the "menace to society" statement and not Brigham Young. A institute Director showed me the clipping from whence the statement came.

Edited November 20, 2012 by Scott Lloyd

[Erin15]

My daughter's just starting college, and one of my biggest fears is that she'll get in a serious relationship, let alone marriage, before she graduates.

Keep in mind that the market has changed signifigantly over the last twenty years, and will continue to change. A college degree is not worth very much compared to what it used to be, and could become worthless if the education bubble bursts.

In fact, it is often prefereable to attend a technical school over a traditional college. We may have been trained to balk at plumbers, electricians, and auto mechanics, but those people make a lot of money, their jobs are never outsourced to other countries, and they do not incur crushing debt aquiring those job skills.

In summation: College is not the opportunity it once was, and does not guarantee the success it once did.

Edited November 21, 2012 by Erin15

[Scott Lloyd]

The "editor of the paper" (the Deseret News) was apostle George Q. Cannon, and we have already referred to his statement. It is quoted in one of the links given in my prior post.

What probably happened is that at some point in time, Elder Cannon's statement was misquoted to some extent and mistakenly attributed to Brigham Young, and the errors got perpetuated down through the years. That's my best guess, anyway.

DavidB, are you "frankenstein" in the thread of last December, to which I gave a link a few posts ago? He said precisely the same thing in that thread that you just did here, including the element of having learned about it from an Institute director.

If so, you wouldn't be the first person to have been banned from the board and then signed on under a different screen name.

I gave the same response to the same comment back then, by the way. Sometimes, being on this board seems like Groundhog Day.

Addendum:

Compare this from "frankenstein" ...

... with this from "DavidB":

A day has passed with, as yet, no response from DavidB.

But if my suspicion is correct, I find some irony in this post on another thread (look at post #363 on that thread, wherein DavidB asks Kamara if he is a sock puppet).

Add-on: More irony from the same thread (post #385)"

It is a nice world, because I am honest with myself and others.

Edited November 27, 2012 by Scott Lloyd