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Does Jon Huntsman Jr. Still Belong To The Lds Faith?


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It begs the question, can a man be a politician and a Mormon.

It will be interesting to see who gets further, a man who embraces his religion as Romney does, or the one that witdraws from it, as Huntsman seems to be doing.

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It begs the question, can a man be a politician and a Mormon.

It will be interesting to see who gets further, a man who embraces his religion as Romney does, or the one that witdraws from it, as Huntsman seems to be doing.

Considering the influence of the Religious Right and the Tea Party on the GOP, I don’t necessarily see either man getting very far. Huntsman is not conservative enough, and Romney is not ‘Christian’ enough.

Although, I think it is possible to be both a politician and a Mormon. Just not necessarily a president. Harry Reid is an example of a person who has been able to be successful as both a politician and a Mormon.

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I don't belong to the Mormon church. I belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and yes you can be a successful politician and belong to the Church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latter_Day_Saints

Currently in office

U.S. Senate

Mike Crapo, (R-Idaho)[189]

Orrin Hatch, (R-Utah)[189]

Dean Heller, (R-Nevada)

Mike Lee, (R-Utah)[189]

Harry Reid, senate majority leader, (D-Nevada)[189]

Tom Udall, (D-New Mexico)[189]

U.S. House of Representatives

Rob Bishop, (R-Utah)[189]

Leonard Boswell, (D-Iowa), Community of Christ[190]

Jason Chaffetz, (R-Utah)[189]

Eni Faleomavaega, nonvoting delegate (D-American Samoa)[189]

Jeff Flake, (R-Arizona)[189]

Wally Herger, (R-California)[189]

Raúl Labrador, (R-Idaho)[189]

Buck McKeon, (R-California)[189]

Mike Simpson, (R-Idaho)[189]

Governors

Gary Herbert, (R-Utah)[189]

Past office holders

U.S. Senate

Bob Bennett, (R-Utah, 1993–2010)[191]

Berkeley Bunker, (D-Nevada, 1940–42)[192]

Howard Cannon, (D-Nevada, 1959–83)[193][194]

Jake Garn, (R-Utah, 1974–93) [193]

Paula Hawkins, (R-Florida, 1981–87)[195][196]

William H. King, (D-Utah, 1917–1941)[197]

Frank E. Moss, (D-Utah, 1959–77) [193]

Gordon Smith, (R-Oregon, 1997–2009)[198]

Reed Smoot, (R-Utah, 1903–33)[199]

Elbert Duncan Thomas, (D-Utah, 1933–51)[200]

U.S. House of Representatives

Hamer Budge, (R-Idaho, 1951–1961)[201]

John Milton Bernhisel, (Utah Territory)[202]

John Doolittle, (R-California, 1991–2009)[203]

Jim Gibbons, (R-Nevada, 1997–2006)[204]

George Hansen, (R-Idaho, 1965–69, 1975–85) [205]

Ralph Harding, (D, Idaho, 1961–65)[206]

Ernest Istook, (R-Oklahoma, 1993–2007)[207]

David S. King, (D-Utah, 1959–63, 1965–67)[208]

Howard Nielson, (R-Utah, 1983–91)[209]

Wayne Owens, (D-Utah, 1973–75, 1987–93)[193][210]

Norman D. Shumway, (R-California, 1979–1991)[211]

Richard Stallings, (R-Idaho, 1985–93)[212]

Richard Swett, (D-New Hampshire, 1991–95)[213]

Morris King Udall, (D-Arizona, 1961–91)[211]

Stewart Udall, (D-Arizona, 1955–61) [193]

Governors

John Evans, (D-Idaho, 1977–1987)[214]

Jim Gibbons, (R-Nevada, 2007–11)[204]

Mike Leavitt, (R-Utah, 1993–2003)[215]

George Romney, (R-Michigan, 1963–69)[216]

Mitt Romney, (R-Massachusetts, 2003–2007)

Cabinet officers, ambassadors and senior administration officials

Terrel Bell, Secretary of Education (1981–85)[193][217]

Ezra Taft Benson, Secretary of Agriculture (1953–61)[218]

Angela Buchanan, Treasurer of the United States (1981–83)[193][219]

J. Reuben Clark, undersecretary of state, U.S. ambassador to Mexico[193][220]

David M. Kennedy, secretary of treasury (1969–71); ambassador to NATO (1972–73) [193]

Mike Leavitt, Secretary of Health and Human Services (2005–2009); Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency[215]

Rex Lee, United States Solicitor General (1981–85) [193]

Ivy Baker Priest, Treasurer of the United States (1953–61) [193]

George Romney, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (1969–73)[216]

Richard Swett, U.S. Ambassador to Denmark (1998–99)[213]

Stewart Udall, Secretary of Interior (1961–69)[193]

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Considering the influence of the Religious Right and the Tea Party on the GOP, I don’t necessarily see either man getting very far. Huntsman is not conservative enough, and Romney is not ‘Christian’ enough.

I would agree that the Religious Right, dominated by the evangelicals, may take issue with Romney's mormonism, as they do not necessarily consider the LDS church to be a "Christian" church.

However, I think an even bigger stumbling block for Romney and his campaign is the comprehensive insurance plan that was implemented under his watch, and with his enthusastic endorsement, while he was governor of Massachusetts. It is, after all, the model that forms the basis of Obama's insurance plan which has been pilloried by almost all on the Right, whether it be Religious Right, Social Right or Fiscal Right.

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I would agree that the Religious Right, dominated by the evangelicals, may take issue with Romney's mormonism, as they do not necessarily consider the LDS church to be a "Christian" church.

However, I think an even bigger stumbling block for Romney and his campaign is the comprehensive insurance plan that was implemented under his watch, and with his enthusastic endorsement, while he was governor of Massachusetts. It is, after all, the model that forms the basis of Obama's insurance plan which has been pilloried by almost all on the Right, whether it be Religious Right, Social Right or Fiscal Right.

holy cow Walden how can you be soooooooooooo dense. Its obvious that there is a difference between the two and that you can not see the difference means even if I tried to explain, your feeble mind still could not understand.

But I will try anyway.

The difference is this,

Romney was elected by the will of the people to represent the people and as the representative of the people Romney instituted a socialist program.

Obama was elected by the will of the people to represent the people and as the representative of the people Obama instituted a socialist program.

See, walden you big dunce the difference is glaring ... it takes more letter to type the sentence about Romeny, also if you notice the sentence about Obama is just to left of the Romney sentence.

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Remember that politicians will say pretty much anything to get elected. I think he is simply willing to throw his Mormonism under the bus for the sake of getting elected.

I would like to think that Huntsman is being sincere about his beliefs, with little regard to its political implications.

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I would like to think that Huntsman is being sincere about his beliefs, with little regard to its political implications.

A politician who disregards the political implications of anything that they believe, say, do, etc. will not be a politician for long in this country.

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Off the subject, Mike Huckabee has officially declined to run for President.

Maybe someone should start a new post on that subject

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I don't belong to the Mormon church. I belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and yes you can be a successful politician and belong to the Church.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latter_Day_Saints

Currently in office

U.S. Senate

Mike Crapo, (R-Idaho)[189]

Orrin Hatch, (R-Utah)[189]

Dean Heller, (R-Nevada)

Mike Lee, (R-Utah)[189]

Harry Reid, senate majority leader, (D-Nevada)[189]

Tom Udall, (D-New Mexico)[189]

U.S. House of Representatives

Rob Bishop, (R-Utah)[189]

Leonard Boswell, (D-Iowa), Community of Christ[190]

Jason Chaffetz, (R-Utah)[189]

Eni Faleomavaega, nonvoting delegate (D-American Samoa)[189]

Jeff Flake, (R-Arizona)[189]

Wally Herger, (R-California)[189]

Raúl Labrador, (R-Idaho)[189]

Buck McKeon, (R-California)[189]

Mike Simpson, (R-Idaho)[189]

Governors

Gary Herbert, (R-Utah)[189]

Past office holders

U.S. Senate

Bob Bennett, (R-Utah, 1993–2010)[191]

Berkeley Bunker, (D-Nevada, 1940–42)[192]

Howard Cannon, (D-Nevada, 1959–83)[193][194]

Jake Garn, (R-Utah, 1974–93) [193]

Paula Hawkins, (R-Florida, 1981–87)[195][196]

William H. King, (D-Utah, 1917–1941)[197]

Frank E. Moss, (D-Utah, 1959–77) [193]

Gordon Smith, (R-Oregon, 1997–2009)[198]

Reed Smoot, (R-Utah, 1903–33)[199]

Elbert Duncan Thomas, (D-Utah, 1933–51)[200]

U.S. House of Representatives

Hamer Budge, (R-Idaho, 1951–1961)[201]

John Milton Bernhisel, (Utah Territory)[202]

John Doolittle, (R-California, 1991–2009)[203]

Jim Gibbons, (R-Nevada, 1997–2006)[204]

George Hansen, (R-Idaho, 1965–69, 1975–85) [205]

Ralph Harding, (D, Idaho, 1961–65)[206]

Ernest Istook, (R-Oklahoma, 1993–2007)[207]

David S. King, (D-Utah, 1959–63, 1965–67)[208]

Howard Nielson, (R-Utah, 1983–91)[209]

Wayne Owens, (D-Utah, 1973–75, 1987–93)[193][210]

Norman D. Shumway, (R-California, 1979–1991)[211]

Richard Stallings, (R-Idaho, 1985–93)[212]

Richard Swett, (D-New Hampshire, 1991–95)[213]

Morris King Udall, (D-Arizona, 1961–91)[211]

Stewart Udall, (D-Arizona, 1955–61) [193]

Governors

John Evans, (D-Idaho, 1977–1987)[214]

Jim Gibbons, (R-Nevada, 2007–11)[204]

Mike Leavitt, (R-Utah, 1993–2003)[215]

George Romney, (R-Michigan, 1963–69)[216]

Mitt Romney, (R-Massachusetts, 2003–2007)

Cabinet officers, ambassadors and senior administration officials

Terrel Bell, Secretary of Education (1981–85)[193][217]

Ezra Taft Benson, Secretary of Agriculture (1953–61)[218]

Angela Buchanan, Treasurer of the United States (1981–83)[193][219]

J. Reuben Clark, undersecretary of state, U.S. ambassador to Mexico[193][220]

David M. Kennedy, secretary of treasury (1969–71); ambassador to NATO (1972–73) [193]

Mike Leavitt, Secretary of Health and Human Services (2005–2009); Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency[215]

Rex Lee, United States Solicitor General (1981–85) [193]

Ivy Baker Priest, Treasurer of the United States (1953–61) [193]

George Romney, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development (1969–73)[216]

Richard Swett, U.S. Ambassador to Denmark (1998–99)[213]

Stewart Udall, Secretary of Interior (1961–69)[193]

I wouldn't count Jim Gibbons if I were you; our former Governor was NEVER a practicing member of the faith, he only claimed the title

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Does Jon Huntsman Jr. Still Belong To The Lds Faith?

It depends alot on his positions on the issues, actual membership notwithstanding.

Not passing judgement. Just find it interesting.

Yet judgement is exactly what the scriptures ask us to do (1 Cor 6:2).

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according to his PR person in waiting Huntsman is still a member, but that does not say much. Many people are still members.

The only part about the whole thing that bothers me is that I believe LDS People will vote for him just because of his membership status, same goes for the flipflopper.

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It depends alot on his positions on the issues, actual membership notwithstanding.
I wonder if Jesus would pass your litmus test.

Since it's his own test, I'm sure he would. The real question is does someone truly belong to something when they don't like being associated with that something?

Consider John 17:11, 20-23. Is Jesus praying for those who cringe when their name is associated with his or who don't accept the doctrine? Of course not. He's praying for those who believe on his name through the teachings of the apostles and prophets; in other words, the Church.

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Since it's his own test, I'm sure he would.

Jesus never said: "It depends alot on his positions on the issues, actual membership notwithstanding."

That was you, which makes your your test.

The real question is does someone truly belong to something when they don't like being associated with that something?

Huntsman never said he didn't like being associated with Mormonism. I suspect that when he said ....

When asked whether he still belonged to the Mormon church, he said, “that’s tough to define. There are varying degrees. I come from a long line of saloon keepers and proselytizers, and I draw from both sides.”

... he had in mind the fact that some members, ie members like you, would say he does not belong, if he does not "truly" belong. Whatever that means.

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However, I think an even bigger stumbling block for Romney and his campaign is the comprehensive insurance plan that was implemented under his watch, and with his enthusastic endorsement, while he was governor of Massachusetts. It is, after all, the model that forms the basis of Obama's insurance plan which has been pilloried by almost all on the Right, whether it be Religious Right, Social Right or Fiscal Right.

Good point.

It’s such a shame that Romney committed the crime of trying to help people without access to health insurance, isn’t it?

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Considering his recent interest in Running for POTUS, I think he is staying neutral in light of what happened to Mitt Romney?

I can think of similar circumstances with members in an earlier time. Wonder if he will deny three times before primary morn?

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