Tithing: Take 2

[Doctrine 612]

You're going to need to spell that out...

Surplus

Verily I say unto you, it shall come to pass that all those who gather unto the land of aZion shall be tithed of their surplus properties, and shall observe this law, or they shall not be found worthy to abide among you.

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 119:5)

10% from the Surpluse

In 1882 Elder Franklin D. Richards stated:

[mbh26]

Even without paying taxes that would hardly give me enough to live on. I would probably sell the farm and get a more secure job

Good luck with that. $8/hr is only around $16k/year. Not to mention the fact that some of the most back breaking, difficult, and high pressure jobs pay the least. Then add to that the stress of being owned by someone else and treated like property the way employees are treated, no wonder so many people hold fast to the farm. You might make a better salary the first year, but a job is far less secure than your land. You have a right to your land. You have no right to your job. It can be taken at any time for any reason.

Don't want to work for $8/hr? We've got some Mexicans who will work for $4/hr and since they're illegal we don't even have to pay them that every time.

[erichard]

Surplus

Verily I say unto you, it shall come to pass that all those who gather unto the land of aZion shall be tithed of their surplus properties, and shall observe this law, or they shall not be found worthy to abide among you.

(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 119:5)

10% from the Surplus

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The United Order laws require that one place all before the Bishop, and receive back a stewarship based on real need. Thus it required all surplus to be put into the Order in an initial consecration.

D&C 119 goes further and requires an initial consecration of all surplus, and then a yearly donation of 10% of the yearly increase. Clearly, tithing is part of the United Order laws, and needs to be lived with the other laws.

Here is a quote that should be considered:

Behold I say unto you, their income is not their increase, for if a man at the beginning of a year is worth $20,000 and at the end of the year is worth $25,000 his increase is therefore $5,000 and on this his tithe is based, even though his income for the same period is $12,000.

Or if a man at the beginning of a year is worth $20,000, and at the end of the year, because he and his wife hath been frugal and labored hard, he is worth $30,000, even though his income from other sources is $5,000 his increase is $10,000, and on this his tithe is based.

Richard

[Doctrine 612]

The United Order laws require that one place all before the Bishop, and receive back a stewarship based on real need. Thus it required all surplus to be put into the Order in an initial consecration.

D&C 119 goes further and requires an initial consecration of all surplus, and then a yearly donation of 10% of the yearly increase. Clearly, tithing is part of the United Order laws, and needs to be lived with the other laws.

Here is a quote that should be considered:

Richard

Sounds like we are in agreement you pay tithing off of the surplus