zeezrom Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 Already has.that mentions stones in silver bows not a hat. Is this information going in the SS/RS/EQ instruction manuals?
David T Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 that mentions stones in silver bows not a hat. You obviously didn't read it.The details of this miraculous method of translation are still not fully known. Yet we do have a few precious insights. David Whitmer wrote:
zeezrom Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 In short, just who the Hell are YOU to "cry repentance" unto this people?You have heard this argument a 1000 times. Is there any single argument you have not heard 1000 times? How do I know which ones to avoid so you don't get mad?Please be happy selek. Please?
Jason Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 You have heard this argument a 1000 times. Is there any single argument you have not heard 1000 times? How do I know which ones to avoid so you don't get mad?This particular one has come up on the forum an awful lot.
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Wow, I really hit a nerve on this one. Is everything included in the JSPapers? William Clayton journal, council of 50,...Even so, will correlation include any of this? Will correlation include the rocks in the hat mode of translation so we can discuss it in SS and EQ/RS?You are straining at a nat so hard it is is pathetic.
selek Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 You have heard this argument a 1000 times. Is there any single argument you have not heard 1000 times? How do I know which ones to avoid so you don't get mad?Please be happy selek. Please?You dodge the question.Who are YOU to cry repentance unto this people?Thus far, you've done nothing but vomit up the venom and bile of others.Is there not a single original thought in your head, or are you content to follow where the Piper leads you?Isn't that the sin of which you accuse us?
selek Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 You are straining at a nat so hard it is is pathetic.That would explain the intellectual hernia that forms most of his (pro forma) arguments.
Scottie Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 I think I'll return to the cesspool where, unlike here, the personal attacks and hatred run rampant... It was nice to get a small breath of fresh, clean air though.
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 It's comforting to me to know that someone has come to fill the void left by John Williams' banning: another passive aggressive apostate evangelist plying his trade on the MAD board. How sweet!As for the insinuation/allegation that the Church "lies" in some fashion or another, all I can say is that we have proven time and time again that upwards of 98% of everything the apostates have claimed to be "hidden" by the church has actually, at one time or another, been published, in broad daylight, in its official magazines.Amen. I suggest that Zee at least use the search function and see how manytimes threads like this have come up. Again this is pathetic. I suggest you look at Markk's posting Zee, his attempt to jsutify that the church lied to him was even more pathetic than this attempt. DCP creamed Markk. IT was really bad.
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 I think I'll return to the cesspool where, unlike here, the personal attacks and hatred run rampant... It was nice to get a small breath of fresh, clean air though.Personal attacks? Perhaps I just missed them.
zeezrom Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 You obviously didn't read it.I just saw the first quote that mentions the silver bows.Now I'm confused. By what method did Joseph use according to Nelson? Hat or bows or do we just not know?
SilverKnight Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 I think I'll return to the cesspool where, unlike here, the personal attacks and hatred run rampant... It was nice to get a small breath of fresh, clean air though.Well if you guys want to come over and kick the nest, don't be surprised when some irate hornets come out.
David T Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 I just saw the first quote that mentions the silver bows.Now I'm confused. By what method did Joseph use according to Nelson? Hat or bows or do we just not know?again, from the article, which I already quoted, "The details of this miraculous method of translation are still not fully known. "Why should he have been limited to one method? Have you read RSR?
Jeff K. Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 http://www.amazon.com/Offenders-Word-Daniel-C-Peterson/dp/0934893357 Thanks for the link, just purchased it.
zeezrom Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 OK everyone. This is not what I intended at all. Where is that Hawaiian guy when I need him... Let me start over. Aloha! can you say it after me? Aloha!!!Now, turn on the Bob Marley in the background and let's start this again.Are the church instruction manuals for SS and EQ/RS going to start disclosing more information now that the church is doing things like publishing JSPapers and soon to be disclosing the KEP and whatnot?
selek Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 OK everyone. This is not what I intended at all. Where is that Hawaiian guy when I need him... Let me start over. Aloha! can you say it after me? Aloha!!!Now, turn on the Bob Marley in the background and let's start this again.Are the church instruction manuals for SS and EQ/RS going to start disclosing more information now that the church is doing things like publishing JSPapers and soon to be disclosing the KEP and whatnot?While we appreciate the value of a tactical retreat in the face of utter annihilation (and you skillful attempt at one), would you kindly answer the questions above?
Jeff K. Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Manuals are basic information, they are not indepth treatises with various routes to be explored. If you want such a tome, right it yourself.
David T Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Are the church instruction manuals for SS and EQ/RS going to start disclosing more information now that the church is doing things like publishing JSPapers and soon to be disclosing the KEP and whatnot?If the Brethren feel it will substantially help contribute to teaching all members how to apply the information to grow closer to Christ instead of just being simple curiosities and factoids.
Scottie Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Well if you guys want to come over and kick the nest, don't be surprised when some irate hornets come out.Hey, I'm all about taking as much as you dish out. Just don't condemn MDB for being a "cesspool" when MA&DB gangs up on questioning members like this.
zeezrom Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 While we appreciate the value of a tactical retreat in the face of utter annihilation (and you skillful attempt at one), would you kindly answer the questions above?Sorry my friend, I lost track of the question amidst all the buzzing noise. Can you kindly restate?
selek Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Manuals are basic information, they are not indepth treatises with various routes to be explored. If you want such a tome, write it yourself. Apparently, per Nibley, he's already done all the basic research.Now all he has to do is compile it into a single document.Of course, any such work by Zeezrom would have two fatal flaws:1) it would be no less incestuous than the rest of the anti-Mormon hate mill,and, 2) it would require that he gain some basic experience in how such manuals are compiled- which would undermine his insistence that the Church produce a "perfect" manual with "complete disclosure."In short- having had to pick and choose which facts to include in his tome- Zeezrom would commit the same sin of omission and lose his "moral" standing to demand full disclosure from others.
SilverKnight Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Are the church instruction manuals for SS and EQ/RS going to start disclosing more information now that the church is doing things like publishing JSPapers and soon to be disclosing the KEP and whatnot?Nope. Because that stuff will soar like an albatross over the heads of most members, who are there mostly to learn about God, Jesus and how to have happier lives with their families.The JSP and KEP is a bit outside that goal.
zeezrom Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 Manuals are basic information, they are not indepth treatises with various routes to be explored. If you want such a tome, right it yourself. Someone next to me in EQ once leaned over and asked, "How many times do we have to cover the same topics over and over?" Have you ever looked around at the glazed eyes in EQ before? I don't think we need to continually discuss the second annointing but it might help to start trusting the members to deal with more than what is repeated in the manuals now. Hey, if the church is true, what would it hurt to disclose more?
Jeff K. Posted May 25, 2010 Posted May 25, 2010 Hey, I'm all about taking as much as you dish out. Just don't condemn MDB for being a "cesspool" when MA&DB gangs up on questioning members like this.Are you saying they gang up like this? I believe they gang up more like prison inmates. Here its more of a powder puff response to some poor thinking, not the individual or their credo.
zeezrom Posted May 25, 2010 Author Posted May 25, 2010 Nope. Because that stuff will soar like an albatross over the heads of most members...because they are simpletons?
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