Literalists And The Flood, Etc.

[katherine the great]

Megaflood Created The Divide Between Britain and France

Well, whatever caused the divide, I'm sure both countries are grateful for it!

[Sethbag]

OK, yah, I'll agree that if Noah never existed, it doesn't destroy any major doctrines. It does make the account of Ether a bit problematic, though, because of the close ties between Jared & co. and the events of the Flood. These are possibly not insurmountable, though. [emphasis added]

You're right, of course. Where there's a will, there's a way.

[Beowulf]

Are you talking about our friend Will Schryver again??

[Uncle Dale]

You're right, of course. Where there's a will, there's a way.

As in â??Danger, Will Robinson!â? ???

UD

[SolarPowered]

You're right, of course. Where there's a will, there's a way.

I want to point out that I was commenting on a hypothetical here--"if Noah never existed." If I were stating that he never existed, I would be far less flippant about whether the problems created were "insurmountable" or not.

In reality, I do think that Noah existed, and survived a "ha'aretz"-wide flood in a manner that we would recognize as the story in Genesis.

[Ron Beron]

In reality, I do think that Noah existed, and survived a "ha'aretz"-wide flood in a manner that we would recognize as the story in Genesis.

Which Noah? I don't mean to be flippant, but there were many different types of Noah.

As to this world wide flood, the Bible makes reference to, as you mentioned a 'eretz or world wide flood, but 'eretz could also mean a localized flood as well. There is an intriguing verse that tells how high the waters actually rose. In verse 20 in states, "Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered." Does this mean the water exceeded the highest mountain by 22 feet or that the waters rose only 22 feet? If we choose the former scenario then it would require 4,525,000,000,000 cubic kilometers of water!! Okay.....a bit of a stretch.

[SolarPowered]

Which Noah? I don't mean to be flippant, but there were many different types of Noah.

As to this world wide flood, the Bible makes reference to, as you mentioned a 'eretz or world wide flood, but 'eretz could also mean a localized flood as well. There is an intriguing verse that tells how high the waters actually rose. In verse 20 in states, "Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered." Does this mean the water exceeded the highest mountain by 22 feet or that the waters rose only 22 feet? If we choose the former scenario then it would require 4,525,000,000,000 cubic kilometers of water!! Okay.....a bit of a stretch.

As you state, "ha'aretz" can, and often does, mean "the land." I don't have too much trouble reading Genesis as a localized flood. It's the folks that refer to Genesis that start insisting on a planet-wide flood.

I guess you're over my head with your question of "Which Noah"? There's only one that I know about, even if some of us aren't quite sure exactly what happened in the flood associated with him.