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marineland

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  1. Free will for his creations.
  2. So intelligences, before becoming spirit children, already had agency to choose between good and evil?
  3. I think God did not create evil. Satan became evil in his rebellion.
  4. Could be both. Evil (a thing) is as evil (a being) does.
  5. Do spirits have a tabernacle in a premortal life? Did intelligences have agency before they were formed into spirit children?
  6. Does evil exist long before the devil is born?
  7. How were premortal spirits of heavenly parents considered divine as God is divine? Are you using these to prove that only sons of God become Gods? The context of Matthew 5:48 is not becoming Gods. Start from the beginning of the chapter. Are all the 24 elders on their thrones Gods too (Revelation 4:4)? You mentioned "not putting". Don't you mean "putting us equal to God"? Based on what the scriptures say, I don't believe Gods can be formed.
  8. Can you provide the link again.
  9. Was that their only exercise of agency?
  10. What about their spirit bodies? Weren't they the workmanship of their immortal parents?
  11. What other evil existed in that premortal life?
  12. What about the spirits born to heavenly parents in the premortal life? What good and evil could they comprehend there?
  13. About this verse in Moses 7. "The Lord said unto Enoch: Behold these thy brethren; they are the workmanship of mine own hands, and I gave unto them their knowledge, in the day I created them; and in the Garden of Eden, gave I unto man his agency". What knowledge is given to Enoch's brethren and when were they created? Did spirits in a pre-mortal life have agency too?
  14. Just reason it out. Where did his wife come from?
  15. Joseph Smith taught that. He had the same parents as his wife did.
  16. That's what Joseph Smith taught.
  17. "Possible gods and goddesses" doesn't mean humans will literally become divine in the same way as God, but rather that we are destined for a kind of glorified existence that is beyond our current understanding. He uses mythological language ("gods and goddesses") to emphasize the magnitude and splendor of the future glory humans are capable of through grace, not our works.
  18. A foal is a horse with the potential to become a champion. What do you mean by God's nature? What is Heavenly Father's nature before he is born of his heavenly parents?
  19. Isn't a child born to a God by nature a God? In the animal kingdom, does a horse give birth to something with a nature other than a horse?
  20. Does each kingdom have its own first and the last?
  21. I don't think there are Gods that have created their own respective humans on other worlds.
  22. No. I am not a parent. That may disqualify me from commenting sufficiently. I find it hard to weep unless I'm really sorry for hurting someone.
  23. "... and the whole heavens shall weep over them"
  24. How many heavenly New Jerusalems as described in the Book of Revelation, which are separate from the many cities of Enoch, exist?
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