The Nehor Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 2 hours ago, sjdawg said: If they have nothing to hide then why are they afraid to open their records to the investigators? Rhetorical question I guess. There are lots of reasons why people or organizations with nothing to hide want to keep their data private. It is that kind of argument that led to the constitution being torn up in the hysteria following 9/11 as Americans gladly surrendered some of their rights under the pretext of being safe. I am not saying that applies here. It is difficult to tell what is going on here. They demanded records and an investigation. BYU says they have complied with the subpoena and conducted the investigation. The state says they have not met their requirements. This will probably end up being decided on boring textual legalese and there will be no smoking gun of wrongdoing. I really do not have an axe in this fight. I never went to BYU. I do not see the BYU police department as part of the Lord’s kingdom on Earth. I personally disliked the rent-a-cops at the university I did go to except for the time they arrested my ex-fiancée for public indecency. That was kind of funny. 1
Gray Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/02/28/lieutenant-with-byu/ Quote For two years, a Brigham Young University police lieutenant looked at private police reports created by other Utah County law enforcement agencies and passed on that information to university officials — including those working in the Honor Code Office. The report says state investigators found that Rhoades accessed private police reports from Orem police, the Utah County Sheriff’s Office and Provo police. He took information from those reports and shared them with BYU’s Dean of Students Office, the Title IX office and the Honor Code Office. He accessed these reports for nearly two years, investigators found, starting in August 2014. His actions stopped in June 2016 — the same time that the Department of Public Safety announced it would investigate how BYU police accessed and shared its own police reports and the records of other Utah County agencies. It was also during this time that The Salt Lake Tribune obtained BYU documents that showed Rhoades accessed a countywide database to collect information from another police department for an Honor Code investigation of an alleged sexual assault victim in one case. The documents show an Honor Code investigator contacted Rhoades in 2015 asking him for information in the rape case. The lieutenant looked at the records that same day, and relayed intimate details about the case back to the Honor Code office. Quote S. Daniel Carter, president of Safety Advisors for Educational Campuses, LLC, said he’s worked on campus safety issues across the nation for nearly 30 years and has never seen a move to decertify a police department or “police misconduct of this scope.” “It is common for institutions to use their campus police to also serve as security and enforce institutional policies,” he said, “but use of police access to effectively spy on students to enforce non-criminal codes of conduct in this manner is unconscionable. In so doing here, a private entity would be using the power of the state to effect their own religious rules, something with potentially significant ramifications.” Edited March 1, 2019 by Gray 2
Lemuel Posted March 1, 2019 Posted March 1, 2019 On 2/28/2019 at 12:56 AM, rockpond said: Why wouldn’t the Lord’s university work towards obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law of the land rather than fighting against all these efforts to get them to do what every other police department already does? The work of the Honor Code Office is so important that it must be accomplished by any means necessary. I feel bad that the rising generation at BYU won’t have ‘police beat’ to read anymore in the daily universe
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