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21 minutes ago, strappinglad said:

I wonder what protocols will be put in place to screen for false allegations arising whenever an Honor code violation is investigated.

Making a false report is a crime and police should charge those making false allegations.  In fact women and institutions have been severely prosecuted for such false reports -- https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/fraternity-chapter-at-u-va-to-settle-suit-against-rolling-stone-for-165-million/2017/06/13/35012b46-503d-11e7-91eb-9611861a988f_story.html?utm_term=.431e4a232e42 .

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/11/05/more-students-punished-over-sexual-assault-are-winning-lawsuits-against-colleges .

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/09/false_rape_accusations_why_must_be_pretend_they_never_happen.html .

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/pace-university-student-falsely-accused-rape-sues-school-article-1.3066481 .

Yokels should not be put in charge of investigating rape allegations.

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21 minutes ago, Robert F. Smith said:

Making a false report is a crime and police should charge those making false allegations.  In fact women and institutions have been severely prosecuted for such false reports

However, social psychologist Dr. Travis wrote, "Davis and her colleagues Guillermo Villalobos and Richard Leo have suggested that the primary reason for the many “he said/she said” reports that make the news is not that one side is lying. Rather, each partner is providing “honest false testimony” about what happened between them.  That is, both parties believe they are telling the truth, but one or both may be wrong because of the unreliability of memory and perception, and because both are motivated to justify their actions." 

Read "The Delicate Dilemma of Defining Rape" 

http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/the-delicate-dilemma-of-defining-rape/

2 hours ago, bsjkki said:

It is good news, but I think the number of "honest false testomonies" is going to increase a bit. To make things worst sex outside of marriage is seen as an evil in Utah. Why is the relevant? Dr. Travis wrote, "For others, 1% to 3% feels like a more accurate number, supporting their argument that claims of rape are exaggerated in a political climate that invites women to turn unpleasant or regretted sexual encounters into assault charges

 

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1 hour ago, strappinglad said:

I wonder what protocols will be put in place to screen for false allegations arising whenever an Honor code violation is investigated.

I am happy more assault victims will get help from the title ix office without fear of the honor code office. Personally, I wish the honor code was a matter of honor and students were not investigated...this would motivate false reports to zero. Fear is such a dubious motivator that I wish people could work through their own repentance in their own time frame. I wish they could seek counsel from their Bishop without the fear of getting kicked out of school too. The liars and manipulators tend to get away with things either way...they know just what to say and are good at gaming the system. 

 Criminal investigations should be referred to authorities for proper investigations. 

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