Bobbieaware Posted June 26, 2016 Posted June 26, 2016 2 hours ago, theplains said: The passages do not imply what you say. At the Judgment Day, they will acknowledge Christ as Lord but this is not after they have confessed their sins. After death, everybody will believe, but then it will be too late. As the Bible says, it is appointed unto man to die and then the judgment. There is no second chance after death. Study the parable of the Ten Virgins. That is the danger of believing a false gospel ... the false doctrine that you can prepare to meet God after you die. While I don't believe all Book of Mormon passages, it does offer something for Latter-day Saints on the matter. The Book of Mormon teaches mortal life is the time for people to prepare to meet God, not some life after death. "For behold, this life is the time for men to prepare to meet God; yea, behold the day of this life is the day for men to perform their labors” (Alma 34:32). The mortal time of preparation is also called the probationary period (Alma 5:31; 12:24-26; 41:6; 42:4, 10; 2 Nephi 2:30; 9:27). "Ye cannot say, when ye are brought to that awful crisis, that I will repent, that I will return to my God. Nay, ye cannot say this; for that same spirit which doth possess your bodies at the time that ye go out of this life, that same spirit will have power to possess your body in that eternal world” (Alma 34:34). "Then cometh the night of darkness wherein there can be no labor performed ... For behold, if ye have procrastinated the day of your repentance even until death, behold, ye have become subjected to the spirit of the devil, and he doth seal you his; therefore, the Spirit of the Lord hath withdrawn from you, and hath no place in you, and the devil hath all power over you; and this is the fi nal state of the wicked" (Alma 34:32, 35). The wicked are sealed to go with the devil. After death, they wait in this state of darkness and fear until the resurrection. Then they are cast into outer darkness (Alma 40:11-14). Thanks, Jim The book of Doctrine and Covenants amplifies the Book of Mormon and makes it cleat that the "the day of this life" (the mortal probationary period), spoken of by the prophet Alma, includes the period of time our spirits dwell in the spirit world prior to the resurrection. And this is precisely what the apostle Peter also taught: 5 Who (all who have ever lived) shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick (those whose spirits are clothed in mortal flesh) and the dead (those spirits who no longer inhabit mortal bodies). 6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead (those who are out of the body), that they might be judged according to men in the flesh (those still in the body), but live according to God in the spirit. (1 Peter 4) If you are comfortable believing in a rash, hasty, unfair, unjust and unmerciful God, who callously subjects billions upon billions of his supposedly precious sons and daughters to the unspeakable horrors of an endless hell, and this even though they never had the opportunity to hear the gospel and learn about Christ in the flesh, that is your privilege. But as for me and my house, we will believe in the rational, patient fair, merciful and truly loving God of the Latter-day Saints; a God who isn't so easily and senselessly disposed to throw multiple billions of his children into the trash like so much worthless garbage. Such unimaginably cruel behavior is what what one would expect from a carnal human tyrant, not a God of perfect love. You'll have an exceedingly difficult job convincing believing and knowledgeable Latter-day Saints to abandon their God of perfect mercy and love for a cosmic tyrant who does whatever he wants to do because no one has the power to challenge his unjust edicts. 2
theplains Posted June 27, 2016 Author Posted June 27, 2016 On 25/06/2016 at 8:40 PM, VideoGameJunkie said: plains are you saying temple work for the dead is pointless because it's too late once someone's died? That is what I was saying. The disciples did not perform temple ordinances for the dead. In the Old Testament, the font (which Latter-day Saints use to proxy baptize for the dead), was used for the washing of the male priests (1 Kings 7:23-26; 2 Chronicles 4:2, 6). Thanks Jim
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