rongo Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 For volgadon, or anyone else with information on this: A relative of mine asked me a) whether the divisions in Herod's temple (Gentile's Porch, Women's Porch, etc.) were also present in Solomon's and Zerubbabel's temple b) what went on in the Women's Porch He seems to think that the treasury was actually located in the Women's Porch section (hence, the widow able to cast in her mites). He is looking for any information on what the women did there. Just wait for the men to be finished? I know nothing about this at all, and would appreciate any information you might have. Thanks!
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 I am not the one to whom you addressed this, but out Temples are not the same a OT Temples. In so many way, it has changed as all in focused upon the Savior in ways it never was before. We have alters, but the sacrifice is symbolic, not literal. As far a Celestial Room and Holy of Holies, veils have always been in place. Cleansing rituals have always been a part of Temples. Because of the atonement many things changed while "types and shadows" remain. If you would like to tell others what 90% of everything said in a Temple...tell to read Genesis 1& 2.
volgadon Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 For volgadon, or anyone else with information on this: A relative of mine asked me a) whether the divisions in Herod's temple (Gentile's Porch, Women's Porch, etc.) were also present in Solomon's and Zerubbabel's temple b) what went on in the Women's Porch He seems to think that the treasury was actually located in the Women's Porch section (hence, the widow able to cast in her mites). He is looking for any information on what the women did there. Just wait for the men to be finished? I know nothing about this at all, and would appreciate any information you might have. Thanks! The Women's Porch was for more than just women. Basically, it was where every Jew who was ritually clean could stand during the temple ceremonies. One of the big events annually was Simhat Beit-Hashoevah, in connection with Sukkot. Lots of dancing and music.
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 The Women's Porch was for more than just women. Basically, it was where every Jew who was ritually clean could stand during the temple ceremonies. One of the big events annually was Simhat Beit-Hashoevah, in connection with Sukkot. Lots of dancing and music.You don't mean real dance...because real men don't dance. If only for women, that's cool...I think?
rongo Posted January 28, 2014 Author Posted January 28, 2014 Thanks, volgadon! Why was it named the Women's Porch? Just curious. My cousin is just curious as well ---- there's not a concern or apologetic angle.
rongo Posted January 28, 2014 Author Posted January 28, 2014 Oh, and was there a "functioning" Women's Porch in all iterations of the Old Testament temple? Was it a later development?
wenglund Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 The Women's Porch was for more than just women. Basically, it was where every Jew who was ritually clean could stand during the temple ceremonies. One of the big events annually was Simhat Beit-Hashoevah, in connection with Sukkot. Lots of dancing and music. The LDS Bible Dictionary explains: "The court of the women comprised the easternmost portion of the inner temple. It was entered on the east by Nicanor’s Gate, a gate of Corinthian brass, reckoned to be the principal gate. This is without doubt the gate “called Beautiful” of Acts 3:2. A wall separated the more sacred portions of the temple toward the west from the court of the women. From the latter the court of the men of Israel was reached by an ascent of 15 steps. A partition one cubit high compassed the holy house and altar and kept the people from the priests. The eastern part of this enclosure was called the court of the priests, and in it stood the huge altar of burnt offering and the laver for the priestly purifications. Twelve steps led from the court of the priests to the temple itself....Of the places above mentioned, the court of the women was the scene of the Lord’s temple teachings. In the Treasury, at its northern end, He taught (John 8:20); over against the Treasury, He sat and watched the people casting in their alms (Mark 12:41). It was the court of the Gentiles that He purified from the moneychangers; and in Solomon’s Porch, at its east end, He walked in the winter (John 10:22). To the same porch gathered all the people greatly wondering (Acts 3:11), after Peter and John had healed the lame beggar who sat at the Beautiful Gate (the gate between the courts of the Gentiles and the women). Inside the Chel and in the court of the women, the Jews from Asia laid hands on Paul. They dragged him down the 14 steps into the court of the Gentiles (the temple gates being shut behind), and then from the Tower of Antonia through the cloisters the chief captain of the band ran down to rescue him (Acts 21). In the court of the men of Israel at the Feast of Tabernacles the Lord watched the priest bring the water from the Pool of Siloam through the water gate and pour " Thanks, -Wade Englund-
wenglund Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 Thanks, volgadon! Why was it named the Women's Porch? Just curious. According to the Jewish Encyclopedia regarding temple gates: "Four of these were on the north, four on the south, and one on the east, the western side having none. The eastern part of this court was separated from the western, and formed the court of the women. Women might pass beyond the court of the Gentiles into this court alone. The Temple proper might be entered by men only. One of the four gates on the north and one on the south gave entrance to the women's hall, as did likewise the sole gate which led on the east from the court of the Gentiles. " So, while more than women may be found in the court of women, evidently it was the only part of the temple grounds where women were permitted. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
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