Meronoth Near Gibeon In Benjamin: Possible Cognate For Bom Moron?

[USU78]

Here is some information on the name: http://classic.net.bible.org/dictionary.php?word=Meronothite

The root for the proper noun, an OT place name, means "fruitful."

The way we Americans pronounce the first syllable of the BoM proper noun Moroni, the vowel is a schwa rather than a long [O]. It can be argued that this pronunciation, derived from and probably not changed much from JSJr's day, is the proper one, and the proper noun from which it likely derives, the place name Moron, probably likewise has the accent on the second syllable, and the first vowel a schwa.

The question I have for you Hebrew scholars out there, is it possible that the final syllable of Meronoth doesn't affect the meaning, and that Meron could stand alone and be roughly equivalent to Moron? I note that there is a Galilean town and mountain named Meron [Har Meron]. This could well be a better cognate for Nephite Moron/Moroni.

What say you?

[USU78]

Strong's definition is "joyful shouter."

http://lovewins.us/bible/strongs/H4824

Edited September 20, 2012 by USU78

[ANACO]

Me thinks Moron was a Jaredite name. Ether 7:6.

[volgadon]

I note that there is a Galilean town and mountain named Meron [Har Meron]. This could well be a better cognate for Nephite Moron/Moroni.

I went to school there for several years, and it is where our regional council is centered.

I'm going to look at Elitzur's book on place names, I'll see if I can find any clues on possible morphology.

[ANACO]

Per revelation, "Mahonri Moriancumer" = the Brother of Jared. Moron and the Nephite versions, Moroni and his son, Moronihah, could be similar.

Moron is the land where the king dwelt. Mormon was named after the land where Alma baptized. And his Father had the same name. Despite both dwelling in the land northward of Zarahemla.

I suspect when the plates of Ether were translated and the translation given to the people (except those parts dealing with combinations), the Nephites began using "Jaredite" names.

Similar to Europeans using Israelite names from the Bible, such as David, Daniel, Mark, Matthew, Joseph, Ruth, Stephen, Mary, Rebecca, Elizabeth. And Latter-day Saints using Nephite and Jaredite names from the Book of Mormon. The Jaredite "Deseret" seems popular. Why else the Beehive on UT State Road signs? Book of Mormon inspired it is.

I believe the Jaredites preceded Hebrew - unless you think the mouth of man from different societies can't make the same sounds.

Ohio! Is that Japanese or Native American?

Edited September 21, 2012 by ANACO

[USU78]

Ohio! Is that Japanese or Native American?

Well . . . it's round on the ends and high in the middle . . . hmmmmm. Toughie.

[USU78]

I went to school there for several years, and it is where our regional council is centered.

I'm going to look at Elitzur's book on place names, I'll see if I can find any clues on possible morphology.

I did some looking already: it's Canaanite originally, with the final nasal being an "m" rather than an "n." In Hebrew, the word took on a vocal "yod" in the first syllable. [ הר מירון‎, Har Meron] In one version of the Canaanite, it had a final "a" . . .

Shimron Meron may also be interesting to look at [שִׁמְרוֹן מְראוֹן]

Note that it has no vocal "yod" in Meron, and the "e" in the first syllable is likewise pronounced as schwa.

[cinepro]

What say you?

I'm just glad Mormon got his name on the book, and we got his name for our nickname. It could have been worse.

[urroner]

I'm just glad Mormon got his name on the book, and we got his name for our nickname. It could have been worse.

Yeah, we could have been called the "USUs." YUCK!!!!!

[USU78]

Yeah, we could have been called the "USUs." YUCK!!!!!

Yeah . . . why devalue the brand?

[urroner]

Yeah . . . why devalue inflate the brand?

Corected you're speling air their USU.

[volgadon]

Yeah . . . why devalue the brand?

The current church historian... Just saying.