Areabird Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 So God wrote Amos 7? That's how we know he really changed his mind? I thought the scriptures were written by men and we rely on their competency in transcribing and translating. Just because it says something in the bible doesn't mean it was really just that way. 1
mnn727 Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 It would be nice if people spent as much time researching answers to their questions as they do to researching their questions. 3
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 http://biblelight.ne...se-prophets.htmhttp://en.wikipedia....of_Joseph_SmithNo thanks.
Zakuska Posted July 18, 2012 Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) So God wrote Amos 7? That's how we know he really changed his mind? I thought the scriptures were written by men and we rely on their competency in transcribing and translating. Just because it says something in the bible doesn't mean it was really just that way.Yet another instance where God changes his mind...Exodus 32:147 ¶And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.9 And the Lord said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:10 Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.11 And Moses besought the Lord his God, and said, Lord, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand?12 Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, and say, For mischief did he bring them out, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people.13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.14 And the Lord repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people. Edited July 18, 2012 by Zakuska
Areabird Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Yet again another instance of men writing down what they thought happened. God didn't write it. Men did. 1
DBMormon Posted July 20, 2012 Author Posted July 20, 2012 It would be nice if people spent as much time researching answers to their questions as they do to researching their questions.I am guilty...lol work in progress
Zakuska Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Yet again another instance of men writing down what they thought happened. God didn't write it. Men did.So then we can't take what they wrote down as what really happend?Heck... this is going to be fun! Anything we don't like and that goes against our world view, we can chalk up to men getting it wrong. Thats a slipery slop I'd hate to tread.
treehugger Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 what is the standard by which one claims that a prophecy failed?And why even stop with Joseph Smith.Brigham Young stated, to the youth/young adults of the Church, that seas would heave above their bounds and swallow prominent cities (he mentioned the cities by name) of the East Coast. IIRC, it was a Kimball who then immediately spoke after Brigham Young and testified of the truthfulness of what Brigham had stated.It seems rather dubious to claimed failed prophecies when there is no standard by which to judge. In the Book of Mormon, the mantra "failed prophecies" was uttered, the Prophet supplicated the Lord and was informed that very of his pray or 3 days hence the Prophecies would be fulfilled.
KevinG Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 I am actually quite comforted by the notion that God works through and exalts flawed but earnest and faithful men. It give me hope for myself. 1
Areabird Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 So then we can't take what they wrote down as what really happend?Heck... this is going to be fun! Anything we don't like and that goes against our world view, we can chalk up to men getting it wrong. Thats a slipery slop I'd hate to tread.We can't know whether or not what they wrote is truth or not. We have to rely on faith. But when God does something un-godlike then I would say that is an example of someone writing history the way they want it written, rather than as it actually occurred. History is written by the victors.
selek1 Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 We can't know whether or not what they wrote is truth or not. We have to rely on faith. But when God does something un-godlike then I would say that is an example of someone writing history the way they want it written, rather than as it actually occurred. History is written by the victors.And how do you define "un-God-like"?Other than the rather obvious, "it makes my ears itch", that is?
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