Was/Is Jesus Married?

[volgadon]

Then we should throw out this (among eight that use the word explicitly) verse from the Bible:

I read this as His calling Himself a rabbi, your mileage may vary.

The station we know today as "rabbi" may not have existed, but the term was applied to students of the Old Testament scriptures whose opinions and sayings others respected and sought out.

No, rabbi was used as an honorific, regardless of scholarly status. "Sir" of the day. Anyone pretty much could have been addressed as rabbi.

Of course, I didn't make the claim that Jesus was a XXI (or even VI) rabbi, so I have no dog in this fight. However, I have read that an unmarried adult Jew (of either sex) would have been a sore thumb oddity, and would not have been accepted by his (or His) contemporaries.

Unmarried, adult Jews were a rarity, BUT, we have the example of Ben Azzai who was extremely well-liked and respected. Also, in Jesus' day, adult males tended not to marry til their late thirties.

[volgadon]

Also the Essenes (or whoever the Qumranians were) were celibate for the most part, so an unmarried adult was not entirety an oddity or novelty.

[Stargazer]

Also the Essenes (or whoever the Qumranians were) were celibate for the most part, so an unmarried adult was not entirety an oddity or novelty.

Dagnabbit, volgadon, would you PLEASE stop interfering in our rampant speculations by introducing actual facts?

That being said, I am comfortable in assuming that Jesus was married.

[volgadon]

Dagnabbit, volgadon, would you PLEASE stop interfering in our rampant speculations by introducing actual facts?

Mea culpa, perhaps I should say holy grail or something to make up for it...

That being said, I am comfortable in assuming that Jesus was married.

Me too, I just want to be clear that there is nothing beyond a certain understanding of LDS doctrine mandating the idea.

[ERayR]

Hi Silver,

Because he wasn't?

Because he is God Almighty/Creator of all in the flesh?

Peace,

Ceeboo

Friend Ceeboo,

For this you would deny him the opportunity to share in one of the greatest blessings a man and a woman can share? For that accpmplishment I would think you would deny him nothing.

[Ceeboo]

Friend Ceeboo,

For this you would deny him the opportunity to share in one of the greatest blessings a man and a woman can share? For that accpmplishment I would think you would deny him nothing.

Friend ERayR,

With respect, I am not sure who is doing the denying or what is being denied concerning the Lord/Christ.

I am afraid we will have to agree to disagree about several things (Jesus being married, the accomplishment of Christ, and the placing of Christ on equal grounds as us)

Peace,

Ceeboo

[thesometimesaint]

One of the biggest failings of the Christian world was to dehumanize Christ. He was born into a family. He had parents Mary and Joseph. Possibly brothers and sisters; aunts, uncles, cousins. In the ultimate heresy we have stripped all that away to leave just a mother and child.

[Ceeboo]

One of the biggest failings of the Christian world was to dehumanize Christ. He was born into a family. He had parents Mary and Joseph. Possibly brothers and sisters; aunts, uncles, cousins. In the ultimate heresy we have stripped all that away to leave just a mother and child.

Hey Sometime,

From another view:

One of the biggest failings of the Mormon world was to lower Christ to an eqaul and on par level with fellow Mormons thus stripping away his Divinity.

In regards to your "leaving just a mother and child", I would simply suggest that alone speaks volumes in the agree to disagree department.

Peace,

Ceeboo

[thesometimesaint]

Ceeboo:

IIRC Catholicism teaches that Jesus is fully human and fully God. But I might be wrong.

[Ceeboo]

Ceeboo:

IIRC Catholicism teaches that Jesus is fully human and fully God. But I might be wrong.

Indeed!

God in the flesh.

Peace,

Ceeboo

[thesometimesaint]

Ceeboo:

That being the case. Was not Jesus born into a family?

[LeSellers]

Also the Essenes (or whoever the Qumranians were) were celibate for the most part, so an unmarried adult was not entirety an oddity or novelty.

They were also cloistered (or whatever one may choose to call it). Their community was not "in the world" at all, from what I've read.

It doesn't seem reasonable to say they were accepted as Jesus was by His followers, none of whom considered himself anything but a Jew.

Lehi

[Jason]

From another view:

One of the biggest failings of the Mormon world was to lower Christ to an eqaul and on par level with fellow Mormons thus stripping away his Divinity.

It is Jesus and his apostles who have said that we are to be joint heirs with him.

[Hannah Rebekah]

Yes, I believe that Christ was married and did have children. I believe this because of many of the reasons already mentioned and these scriptures (the scriptures are not clear but they sure hint at it).

A messianic psalm:

Psalms 45:9

Kings

[Hannah Rebekah]

Hey Sometime,

From another view:

One of the biggest failings of the Mormon world was to lower Christ to an eqaul and on par level with fellow Mormons thus stripping away his Divinity.

In regards to your "leaving just a mother and child", I would simply suggest that alone speaks volumes in the agree to disagree department.

Peace,

Ceeboo

I don't believe that the Mormon world has lowered Christ to an equal and stripped him of his Divinity. What the Mormon world has done is to raise man up to understand the divinity they have always had so that we can be on par with Christ. Christ lowered himself to our level to raise us up. Its the same theme of the Church Fathers where they state that, "God became man so that man may become god."

[Lightbearer]

While there is no official teaching in the Church that directly says He was married. I would find it very contradictory if He was not. Christ kept the whole law, the law of the Celestial Kingdom, thus He had to obey every ordinance of salvation and exaltation in order to be exalted. He considered it essential to be baptized to fullfill all righteousness, even though He lived a perfect life and had no need of baptism, therefore if marriage is an essential ordinance as we claim it is in the Church, then He had to obey that law:

(D&C 132:4-17) "For behold, I reveal unto you a new and an everlasting covenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter into my glory. For all who will have a blessing at my hands shall abide the law which was appointed for that blessing, and the conditions thereof, as were instituted from before the foundation of the world. And as pertaining to the new and everlasting covenant, it was instituted for the fulness of my glory; and he that receiveth a fulness thereof must and shall abide the law, or he shall be damned, saith the Lord God. And verily I say unto you, that the conditions of this law are these: All covenants, contracts, bonds, obligations, oaths, vows, performances, connections, associations, or expectations, that are not made and entered into and sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, of him who is anointed, both as well for time and for all eternity, and that too most holy, by revelation and commandment through the medium of mine anointed, whom I have appointed on the earth to hold this power (and I have appointed unto my servant Joseph to hold this power in the last days, and there is never but one on the earth at a time on whom this power and the keys of this priesthood are conferred), are of no efficacy, virtue, or force in and after the resurrection from the dead; for all contracts that are not made unto this end have an end when men are dead. Behold, mine house is a house of order, saith the Lord God, and not a house of confusion. Will I accept of an offering, saith the Lord, that is not made in my name? Or will I receive at your hands that which I have not appointed? And will I appoint unto you, saith the Lord, except it be by law, even as I and my Father ordained unto you, before the world was? I am the Lord thy God; and I give unto you this commandment

[ERayR]

Hey Sometime,

From another view:

One of the biggest failings of the Mormon world was to lower Christ to an eqaul and on par level with fellow Mormons thus stripping away his Divinity.

In regards to your "leaving just a mother and child", I would simply suggest that alone speaks volumes in the agree to disagree department.

Peace,

Ceeboo

The Mormon church has not lowered Christ but has simply taken the hand he extended and climb the ladder to stand beside him in the glory that he extends to us. Christ is not lowered but instead he exalts man with his glory.

[brightpath]

Christ was not married, had children, nor did he have sex while on earth. He had an eye single to the glory of God. Read in Matt. the parable of the Eunuchs.

[thesometimesaint]

brightpath:

There is nothing precluding someone whom is married from having an eye single to the glory of God.

[erichard]

Was Jesus married when He was on earth?

Does He have a wife/wives now?

Hi,

Did Jesus have a regular male body with a sex drive? If so, I would find it troublesome if he was supposed to be celebrate all his adult life -- not that it cannot be done.

I definitely believe myself that Jesus was married and had descendants. I have never read the books that tout such an idea, but I accept that these sensational books are probably not the real truth either.

Here is a picture of Mary Magdalene pregnant at the cross:

In the central image, the scene of the crucifixion of Jesus, we find a depiction of Mary Magdalene, showing her

[zerinus]

I am among those who believe He was married, possibly to multiple women (Mary Magdalene and Martha, and possibly her sister, Martha, as well), but have little scriptural evidence to support the assumption.

However, there is some scripture evidencing it, notably the fact that Jesus appeared to His wives before visiting His Apostles, and even before rising to meet His Father. In this short passage, Mary uses the word "Rabboni", "my master", used by I wives in addressing their husbands.

A Jewish father, like Joseph, had two duties to his son: to teach him a trade, and to secure him a wife. Joseph was a pious Jew, and to have failed in either one would have been as great a scandal as Mary's pregnancy fifteen years earlier. In addition, He was a rabbi (at least He is so called in the Gospels) and while mandated rabbinical marriage was not a I tradition, it would have been odd and needed an explanation had He been unmarried. No such explanation exists, leading us to infer He was married.

What God hath joined, let no man put asunder. If He was married then, He is married now. If He was not married then, He may be waiting until the final judgment of the world before taking His wife. We do not know, but, as others as well as I have said, there are hints and whispers in the scriptures.

Lehi

If Jesus was married, why is there such a conspiracy of silence about it in the New Testament? Why are they never mentioned? His parents and siblings are mentioned, but not his wife and children:

Matthew 13

:

53 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these parables, he departed thence.

54 And when he was come into his own country, he taught them in their synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, Whence hath this man this wisdom, and these mighty works?

55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?

Mark 6

:

2 And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?

3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

So they only knew of His mother and brothers and sister, but not of His wife and kids?

Matthew 12

:

46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.

47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.

48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3

:

31 There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.

32 And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.

33 And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?

34 And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

So only His mother and brothers were concerned for His safety, and not His wife and kids?

And would that rule apply to His wife and kids too

[zerinus]

Hard to say, but there is this:

I believe He would, just as any true leader does not require of his subordinates what he would not do himself, Christ would not impose on us what He did not accomplish in His own lifetime.

Lehi

Are you suggesting that getting married means "descending below all things"? Well, I am sure there are some married couples who would agree with you on that. LOL! But seriously though, is that the meaning of "descending belows all things," or is it more likely this:

D&C 122

:

5 If thou art called to pass through tribulation; if thou art in perils among false brethren; if thou art in perils among robbers; if thou art in perils by land or by sea;

6 If thou art accused with all manner of false accusations; if thine enemies fall upon thee; if they tear thee from the society of thy father and mother and brethren and sisters; and if with a drawn sword thine enemies tear thee from the bosom of thy wife, and of thine offspring, and thine elder son, although but six years of age, shall cling to thy garments, and shall say, My father, my father, why can't you stay with us? O, my father, what are the men going to do with you? and if then he shall be thrust from thee by the sword, and thou be dragged to prison, and thine enemies prowl around thee like wolves for the blood of the lamb;

7 And if thou shouldst be cast into the pit, or into the hands of murderers, and the sentence of death passed upon thee; if thou be cast into the deep; if the billowing surge conspire against thee; if fierce winds become thine enemy; if the heavens gather blackness, and all the elements combine to hedge up the way; and above all, if the very jaws of hell shall gape open the mouth wide after thee, know thou, my son, that all these things shall give thee experience, and shall be for thy good.

8

The Son of Man hath descended below them all. Art thou greater than he?

[zerinus]

If the Restored Gospel is true, I grant that it probably follows that Jesus was married. It is similar kinds of developed reasoning that leads Catholics, without explicit revelation, to conclude that our Lady, the Blessed Virgin, was assumed into heaven.

As a Mormon I do not find that such a far-fetched idea. The doctrine of the assumption of Mary, though not official Mormon doctrine, and not taught in the standard works, is not inconsistent with Mormon theology.

This is in contrast with the doctrine of the Immaculate Conception of Mary, which is inconsistent with LDS theology.

[zerinus]

I believe so, but we know little about the marital status of Christ and almost all the 12, so anything we could say would be speculative.

There is evidence that the Twelve (or many of them, if not all of them) were married. Paul makes a snide remark about that in 1 Corinthians 9:5!

[zerinus]

Yes, I believe that Christ was married and did have children. I believe this because of many of the reasons already mentioned and these scriptures (the scriptures are not clear but they sure hint at it).

Isaiah 53: 10

Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

That scripture describes Jesus' reward for making the Atonement. By virtue of that Atonement we become literally His seed (see Mosiah 5:7; D&C 25:1).