Scientist alleges religious discrimination

[Pahoran]

Comparing internet atheists to Hitler is laughably simple-minded on many levels. One of us needs to do some reading, but it's not me.

So an image of a belt buckle answers all objections. I'm afraid I'll have to agree with you on this one: you know more about journalism than Jeff does. Especially of the sound-bite variety.

The "Gott mit uns" belt buckle was, like a lot of WWII German miltary regalia, slightly adapted from earlier stuff by the simple expedient of adding a swastika. As useful a visual image as it is, it in fact had little or nothing to do with anything Hitler may or may not have believed.

Regards,

Pahoran

[Pahoran]

I have no problem with a university dedicated to atheism hiring atheists to teach in their university, I understand the priority. But then atheists don't, to my knowledge have universities. They just complain about other groups who put the money together for universities.

Actually Jeff, I think you'll find you're mistaken there. Atheists do have universities; they're owned by governments, funded by taxes, and controlled by atheists.

Regards,

Pahoran

[semlogo]

So an image of a belt buckle answers all objections. I'm afraid I'll have to agree with you on this one: you know more about journalism than Jeff does. Especially of the sound-bite variety.

The "Gott mit uns" belt buckle was, like a lot of WWII German miltary regalia, slightly adapted from earlier stuff by the simple expedient of adding a swastika. As useful a visual image as it is, it in fact had little or nothing to do with anything Hitler may or may not have believed.

Regards,

Pahoran

The Nazi soldiers doing the dirty work were, by and large, Christians. Hitler had his own bizarre faith. The point is, as stupid as the guilt by association trope is, it's made even dumber by the fact that Hitler and the Nazis weren't even atheists.

[thesometimesaint]

Pahoran:

The legal strictures against combining religion and state does not mandate Atheism.

[Pahoran]

Pahoran:

The legal strictures against combining religion and state does not mandate Atheism.

So I've heard. I'm not sure all of your judges, politicians and university chancellors got that memo, though.

Regards,

Pahoran

[cacheman]

Actually Jeff, I think you'll find you're mistaken there. Atheists do have universities; they're owned by governments, funded by taxes, and controlled by atheists.

Regards,

Pahoran

What do you mean by the phrase, 'controlled by athiests'?

[Pahoran]

What do you mean by the phrase, 'controlled by athiests'?

For example, see the OP.

Regards,

Pahoran

[cacheman]

For example, see the OP.

Regards,

Pahoran

The story in which the hiring committee chair (a self described 'infidel' who is very skeptical of religion) exposed apparent religious discrimination?

Which athiests are controlling the University of Kentucky? Do you have any names, or are you making an assumption?

cacheman

[Pahoran]

The story in which the hiring committee chair (a self described 'infidel' who is very skeptical of religion) exposed apparent religious discrimination?

Which athiests are controlling the University of Kentucky? Do you have any names, or are you making an assumption?

cacheman

I would call it a "conclusion." The fact that a person's religious faith -- unconnected with their field of work -- was found to be a disqualifying factor is a fairly persuasive data point in favour of the proposition that hostility to religion is an influential viewpoint at that particular institution.

And I do not ascribe a "hive mind" to atheists. That would be as obviously silly as ascribing the same to Mormons, or claiming that Mormonism trains people to "submissive" habits of thought.

Regards,

Pahoran

[USU78]

So an image of a belt buckle answers all objections. I'm afraid I'll have to agree with you on this one: you know more about journalism than Jeff does. Especially of the sound-bite variety.

The "Gott mit uns" belt buckle was, like a lot of WWII German miltary regalia, slightly adapted from earlier stuff by the simple expedient of adding a swastika. As useful a visual image as it is, it in fact had little or nothing to do with anything Hitler may or may not have believed.

The Gott mit uns went back to the Prussian Army, if memory serves.

My! My! It's even older: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gott_mit_uns

[cacheman]

I would call it a "conclusion." The fact that a person's religious faith -- unconnected with their field of work -- was found to be a disqualifying factor is a fairly persuasive data point in favour of the proposition that hostility to religion is an influential viewpoint at that particular institution.

And I do not ascribe a "hive mind" to atheists. That would be as obviously silly as ascribing the same to Mormons, or claiming that Mormonism trains people to "submissive" habits of thought.

Regards,

Pahoran

So your statement that universities like UK are 'controlled by athiests' was not correct? Would it be more correct to state that at some universities (such as UK), hostility to religion is one influential viewpoint among many?

cacheman

[Pahoran]

So your statement that universities like UK are 'controlled by athiests' was not correct? Would it be more correct to state that at some universities (such as UK), hostility to religion is one influential viewpoint among many?

cacheman

It might be even more correct to opine that at some universities, such as UK, hostility to religion is a decisively influential viewpoint.

Regards,

Pahoran

[cacheman]

It might be even more correct to opine that at some universities, such as UK, hostility to religion is a decisively influential viewpoint.

Regards,

Pahoran

That works for me as long as we acknowledge that there are many other decisively influential viewpoints within the UK and other university systems. The positive aspect of the story in the OP, is that it is enough of an anomaly that it is 'news'. It's certainly outside the norms that I am familiar with at comparable universities.

cacheman